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NEW PRODUCT RELEASE - Bluetooth Boost Controller

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The Bluetooth Boost Controller is now available on the Turbo Transformer website - www.turbotransformer.com

1. Adjust your boost on the fly - more than twice as much as the current Turbo Transformer.
Take full control of your turbo with your Android device. Many prospective customers pass on my product because I refuse to program the existing Turbo Transformer to raise the boost by the maximum amount that the ECU can tolerate without setting codes. I have done this because I want some safety margin since some cars are more sensitive than others and I did not want to field emails and returns due to check engine lights, while giving myself a bad reputation. Now the user can crank the boost to whatever level is desired.
Furthermore, people argue that once a tune is available - this is no longer true since you can add a Turbo Transformer to your and make adjustments to exploit any additional hardware you may have.

2. Get live boost readings.
This partially also solves the need for a boost gauge. You can now see the effect from the Turbo Transformer or any other mod helping you make a decision on which setting or hardware configuration you feel is appropriate for you. For example you can adjust it to a +22 and get a good read on your boost after doing a few passes. Then switch to a +27 and do a few more passes, get another read on the boost level, so on and so forth.

3. Turn your boost down for Valet parking or for parental control
Went somewhere without regular parking and don't trust the valet with your car? Does your teenage son have your worried that he will do burnouts and abuse your highly modified car? Worry no more; just turn down your boost to the lowest setting and regain your peace of mind.
Do you simply want to restrict yourself and save some fuel? Adjust your Turbo Transformer to zero and get stock performance back.

4. Want to push the limits some more?
Ever go to a 1/4 mile strip where you can use a little extra performance? Adjust your Turbo Transformer to a really high setting and enjoy a little bit more boost. But be careful as this is not sustainable so be sure to turn it back down to a normal level after you have your fun.

Here are a few demo videos ...

APP DEMO

[video=youtube;AzZYIQIXcXg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzZYIQIXcXg&feature=youtu.be[/video]

FOCUS ST DEMO

[video=youtube;0krFKDjPiko]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0krFKDjPiko&feature=youtu.be[/video]

Veloster Turbo Demo

[video=youtube;itNpl7MlMAE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itNpl7MlMAE&feature=youtu.be[/video]

Product Sample - Dual Module Kit pictured below
 


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...Furthermore, people argue that once a tune is available - this is no longer true since you can add a Turbo Transformer to your and make adjustments to exploit any additional hardware you may have.
Ameya;

A question and a comment:

1. Any plans for an iPhone version?
2. I think the statements you make above are missing some bits. I could guess at what you are trying to convey, but perhaps you can edit it to be more clear.
 


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I am releasing an Android App on the play store soon. The iPhone app will be available hopefully this year. Here are some screenshots of the release version of the Android App. There is a slide bar that allows for faster adjustment. Or you can click on the tortoise or hare for small changes. The setting now has a psi meaning to it ... as opposed to a +21, +13, etc,. And the largest improvement is the addition of the boost gauge. It also shows the max (peak) and it comes with reset feature so you can zero it any time.

On Fiat 500s, I have plugged a bluetooth unit into 2 individual sensors and have them both adjusted to +6.5 psi.


 


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Interesting product there. Could be fun for something like a leased car that had to stay stock.
 


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Here are some screenshots of the hardware inside. The existing product will not have the white connector on the PCB and the 3D printed case but this will be available within a few weeks.



 


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Does this only adjust the boost?

What other parameters does the AP adjust that this doesn't? Why would it be potentially dangerous to adjust this "too high" into AP boost territory? What is missing from the programming?

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Does this only adjust the boost?

What other parameters does the AP adjust that this doesn't? Why would it be potentially dangerous to adjust this "too high" into AP boost territory? What is missing from the programming?

#questioncity

Turbo Transformer only adjusts boost ... However, boost is the most critical factor that determines power in a turbocharged car. Making mixture richer past a certain lambda gains you nothing and also wastes fuel. Adding timing will make your engine more prone to knocking (although most manufacturers leave some room on the table to compensate for air and fuel quality).

It wouldn't be dangerous to adjust your boost to AP territory or even higher since your engine has a WideBand O2 and timing correction if it detects knock. What IS missing is that the Turbo Transformer can not add timing if you decide to run 93 Octane all the time, although I find this unnecessary since your timing correction will adapt compensate for this anyway. Furthermore, if you run a 93 Octane "tune", you are somewhat stuck in case you decide to switch to lower octane fuel (again not too critical since your car will adapt, although this adaption will be from advanced to retard, as opposed going from retard to advance when switching from 87 Oct to 93 Oct). Sorry for the verbose explanation - I hope that was not confusing.

With the addition of the Bluetooth Module, you can read the boost directly from the sensor, and not over the OBD port (which updates at a much slower rate). You are also able to make these adjustments on the fly (with your phone which you will always have with you); there is no need to keep a dedicated device in the car at all times (I find this annoying) and no need to have anything plugged into the OBD port to get data (I find this annoying too). You will also be able to make fine adjustments to your boost in 0.25 psi increments. You will also be able to adjust your boost to any level you want - even lower than stock. If you adjust boost pressure "too high" with Turbo Transformer, the car's ECU is smart enough to detect that something is wrong and it puts your car into reduced boost (at approximately 8 psi) - no CEL or wrench. A simple key cycle clears this condition.

So is this product right for you?
- Do you plan on going past the usual mods (mostly intake and exhaust)?
- Are you going to turn your car into a highly-modded race car?
- Do you see yourself tinkering with your car every weekend? making custom tunes for your custom parts?
If you answered yes, then Turbo Transformer will not meet your needs. Although, there is no harm from having Turbo Transformer on your car since you can still take advantage of the live boost and the ability to put your car in low power or valet mode without having to download a new tune. It gives you piece of mind when letting a family member borrow your car knowing that they will not be able to abuse your engine or waste your fuel.

On the other hand, if you plan to buy an off the shelf tune so you can "set it and forget it" - I highly recommend trying Turbo Transformer first. You get more torque gain and the same power gain as you would with a Cobb Stage 1 for HALF the price. And unlike a tune there is a customer friendly trial period, you can return it if you don't like it.
 


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Turbo Transformer only adjusts boost ... However, boost is the most critical factor that determines power in a turbocharged car. Making mixture richer past a certain lambda gains you nothing and also wastes fuel. Adding timing will make your engine more prone to knocking (although most manufacturers leave some room on the table to compensate for air and fuel quality).

It wouldn't be dangerous to adjust your boost to AP territory or even higher since your engine has a WideBand O2 and timing correction if it detects knock. What IS missing is that the Turbo Transformer can not add timing if you decide to run 93 Octane all the time, although I find this unnecessary since your timing correction will adapt compensate for this anyway. Furthermore, if you run a 93 Octane "tune", you are somewhat stuck in case you decide to switch to lower octane fuel (again not too critical since your car will adapt, although this adaption will be from advanced to retard, as opposed going from retard to advance when switching from 87 Oct to 93 Oct). Sorry for the verbose explanation - I hope that was not confusing.

With the addition of the Bluetooth Module, you can read the boost directly from the sensor, and not over the OBD port (which updates at a much slower rate). You are also able to make these adjustments on the fly (with your phone which you will always have with you); there is no need to keep a dedicated device in the car at all times (I find this annoying) and no need to have anything plugged into the OBD port to get data (I find this annoying too). You will also be able to make fine adjustments to your boost in 0.25 psi increments. You will also be able to adjust your boost to any level you want - even lower than stock. If you adjust boost pressure "too high" with Turbo Transformer, the car's ECU is smart enough to detect that something is wrong and it puts your car into reduced boost (at approximately 8 psi) - no CEL or wrench. A simple key cycle clears this condition.

So is this product right for you?
- Do you plan on going past the usual mods (mostly intake and exhaust)?
- Are you going to turn your car into a highly-modded race car?
- Do you see yourself tinkering with your car every weekend? making custom tunes for your custom parts?
If you answered yes, then Turbo Transformer will not meet your needs. Although, there is no harm from having Turbo Transformer on your car since you can still take advantage of the live boost and the ability to put your car in low power or valet mode without having to download a new tune. It gives you piece of mind when letting a family member borrow your car knowing that they will not be able to abuse your engine or waste your fuel.

On the other hand, if you plan to buy an off the shelf tune so you can "set it and forget it" - I highly recommend trying Turb first. You get more torque gain and the same power gain as you would with a Cobb Stage 1 for HALF the price. And unlike a tune there is a customer friendly trial period, you can return it if you don't like it.
We all appreciate the informed feedback.

Lastly, comparing the TT to a AP, are there advantages to be had with custom tuning an AP (over a TT) concerning the car being driven at altitude (4500')?

No mods yet.
 


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I am horrible at answering questions in a timely manner - sorry for the delayed response on this. When I post, I tend to write essays and not one liners; so I apologize again for the over-explanation.

If your car already makes the same boost pressure at it would at sea level, your turbo is working harder - see example below.

Ambient Pressure in San Jose - 14.7 psi
Ambient Pressure in Denver - 12.1 psi
Boost Pressure - 18 psi gauge (or 18 + 14.7 = 32.7 psi Absolute)

Pressure Ratio in San Jose - 2.224
Pressure Ratio in Denver - 2.702

So your turbo is working (2.702/2.224 = 1.215) or 21.5% harder to make the same boost pressure.

A custom tune can not counter the effects of altitude ... perhaps check with a fellow-custom tune user to see what accommodations have been made. However, with a Turbo Transformer, I could alter the code to make the car think it is at any altitude. Honestly, I have no idea what effect it would have on your power output, but in case my explanation was not clear, I have attached an image that may help ...

- The dashed blue line is just a 1:1 line for reference. This is what your sensor outputs without any alteration.
- The red line is the existing Turbo Transformer's output. As you see, it outputs the same as stock until about 2 Volts, which corresponds to around 6-7 psi. At this point it starts outputting a slightly lower value than its input.
- The yellow line is an illustration of adjusting the ambient value. In this case, it is outputting more than the input (meaning telling the ECU it is at a higher ambient pressure than it really is) and again after 2.0 Volts it will output less than the input (making more boost). Alternatively, I could also adjust the curve so that it could output a lower value at all times (meaning at sea level, the ECU will see a high altitude).

But as I mentioned before, I the only way to quantify what effects this would have is with a dyno.
 


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So I have gotten the chance to play around with the Bluetooth Turbo transformer. My car has the MP215 tune on it. The reduced boost option works and was a bit funny to me. I may use that option for my "eco mode" Also when it was set at "0" or factory mode it felt just like my normal car. When I went to +4.75 I saw my boost go from my normal 22psi to 25 psi. Driving around town on this mode felt very normal. And you feel the surge when you floor the pedal down. I then went what the heck lets go to maximum boost and set the TT to +8.00 this got me to 27PSI for one run only as after the 3rd gear pull the car reduced boost to 4-5 psi until I turned the car off and back on then all was normal. So I am still trying to find that perfect balance before the ecu goes into reduced boost mode. I have only driven with it commuting for in straight line speed tests. I have yet to see how it works on a road course/mountain road/track. As I want to see how much, if any, extra heat the turbo may be producing. So far my charge temps on the straight line runs have not been effected past normal from what I have seen. Only more time will tell, but I do love the extra kick if gives.
 


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Lol, dont do +8; I should have mentioned that. The threshold for not getting limp is somewhere between the +6.0 and +6.5 setting.

Fiat/Dodge turbo cars can handle the +8 all day long. Hyundai 2.0T can't be turned up past +5. Every engine has a different level of tolerance, therefore the +8 option exists.

I will be updating the app within a month to show a warning above the +5 level.
 


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Lol, dont do +8; I should have mentioned that. The threshold for not getting limp is somewhere between the +6.0 and +6.5 setting.

Fiat/Dodge turbo cars can handle the +8 all day long. Hyundai 2.0T can't be turned up past +5. Every engine has a different level of tolerance, therefore the +8 option exists.

I will be updating the app within a month to show a warning above the +5 level.
Haha good to know. I have the car set to +6.25 and even on a 90 degree day it never went into reduced boost mode. With this I was getting 26psi max I find myself not using all the throttle now on back roads as the power/torque increase from the extra boost in the midrange is awesome!
 


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Glad to hear you are enjoying the boost controller. That is exactly why I make these.

For you iphone freaks, I have sourced a Bluetooth 4.0 (BLE) module that will work with Android AND iPhone and even Windows phones; although there is still a steep learning curve that I need to climb as far as ios development is concerned. But I am making steady progress.
 


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Got it installed this afternoon after getting my exhaust installed. At +5.5 I peaked at 24.3psi

So how do you like it so far? I have Christmas $ and am thinking of getting this. Could you describe your experience/performance with the TT so far. The more reviews the better. Thanks!
 


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