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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMaxed View Post
    Just put my new Firehawk Indy 500's on last night. (205/45-17 on stock suspension) For the last 10 years or so every tire I put on a car has had directional tread. So I look over these very closely. No arrows, no direction instructions. Then I see that all four tires are identical. Maybe I've got four lefts or four rights. OK I accept that these aren't "directional". These may ride a bit rougher than I'd like. But they're on and they will stay on (until winter comes around again). I guess I got soft after five months on my 60 series snow tires.
    They do have a specific inside and outside and should be stamped as such. The outside should have the larger blocks for dry traction cornering for less tread wiggle when full tread

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMaxed View Post
    Just put my new Firehawk Indy 500's on last night. (205/45-17 on stock suspension) For the last 10 years or so every tire I put on a car has had directional tread. So I look over these very closely. No arrows, no direction instructions. Then I see that all four tires are identical. Maybe I've got four lefts or four rights. OK I accept that these aren't "directional". These may ride a bit rougher than I'd like. But they're on and they will stay on (until winter comes around again). I guess I got soft after five months on my 60 series snow tires.
    Check again?

    Mid-lower, left side of mounted tire image shows upside-down-at-45deg-angle: "OUTSIDE"
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    Yes, I did see the inside/outside message. And my local tire shop did get that correct. Doing a cross rotation of my tires at home with one floor jack is going to be a pain, guess I'll have my local shop do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMaxed View Post
    Just put my new Firehawk Indy 500's on last night. (205/45-17 on stock suspension) For the last 10 years or so every tire I put on a car has had directional tread. So I look over these very closely. No arrows, no direction instructions. Then I see that all four tires are identical. Maybe I've got four lefts or four rights. OK I accept that these aren't "directional". These may ride a bit rougher than I'd like. But they're on and they will stay on (until winter comes around again). I guess I got soft after five months on my 60 series snow tires.
    They have a break-in period. Things should improve after that...

    ...I don't remember though if they were directional or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMaxed View Post
    Yes, I did see the inside/outside message. And my local tire shop did get that correct. Doing a cross rotation of my tires at home with one floor jack is going to be a pain, guess I'll have my local shop do it.
    FYI - you can only rotate front to back, not cross-rotate (front moves to opposite side rear) like non-directional all seasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterfan View Post
    FYI - you can only rotate front to back, not cross-rotate (front moves to opposite side rear) like non-directional all seasons.
    If they're not directional, why can't the be x-rotated?

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    I've not rotated mine yet but why couldn't you cross rotate if they aren't directional? The stock RE-50's you could. If I hadn't gotten a nail in the stock tires I would have run them another 10k miles.

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    I could be wrong, but I thought "OUTSIDE" also meant "directional".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterfan View Post
    I could be wrong, but I thought "OUTSIDE" also meant "directional".
    Indeed appears I am wrong. OUTSIDE means asymetrical, but does not necessarily mean directional. Directional will have an rotational arrow. No arrow, no restriction on cross-rotation.

    Now as for DYI on cross-rotation, it is time-consuming but doable if you have 2 jack-stands (which you should). Pick a front tire to remove first. Put a jack stand on it. Send front tire to same side rear. Move to other front. Jack stand on other front. etc...

    I put jack stands on both sides in the front under the inner a-arm bushings (more weight = more stability), then use the jack only on the rear, one side at a time, checking all corners carefully each raising or lowering and chocking any rear tire on the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterfan View Post

    Now as for DYI on cross-rotation, it is time-consuming but doable if you have 2 jack-stands (which you should). Pick a front tire to remove first. Put a jack stand on it. Send front tire to same side rear. Move to other front. Jack stand on other front. etc...

    I put jack stands on both sides in the front under the inner a-arm bushings (more weight = more stability), then use the jack only on the rear, one side at a time, checking all corners carefully each raising or lowering and chocking any rear tire on the ground.
    Thank you Waterfan. Sounds like an easy enough method.


 
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