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    Quote Originally Posted by frankiefiesta View Post
    @Ish what's the gains of e30 x47 compared to e30 x37 ?

    Doesn't seem like much
    I was showing around 264-268whp on vdyno for the x37 e30. So about 20whp increase.

    Im not focusing so much on the peak number through my vdynos but more of the difference and they have been around the ball park on what pumaspeed stated. But since you mentioned marketing lets not forget the good old quickspool kit. Russ had my friends car tune and he claimed 337whp on stock fuel man, thats some crazy shit lol. Anyway, pumaspeed told me a 20-25whp increase and so far on all my fuels it has been around there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ish View Post
    I was showing around 264-268whp on vdyno for the x37 e30. So about 20whp increase.

    Im not focusing so much on the peak number through my vdynos but more of the difference and they have been around the ball park on what pumaspeed stated. But since you mentioned marketing lets not forget the good old quickspool kit. Russ had my friends car tune and he claimed 337whp on stock fuel man, thats some crazy shit lol. Anyway, pumaspeed told me a 20-25whp increase and so far on all my fuels it has been around there.
    From the looks of it, you may be running out of fuel. Seems to be getting lean as the revs run out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ish View Post
    I was showing around 264-268whp on vdyno for the x37 e30. So about 20whp increase.

    Im not focusing so much on the peak number through my vdynos but more of the difference and they have been around the ball park on what pumaspeed stated. But since you mentioned marketing lets not forget the good old quickspool kit. Russ had my friends car tune and he claimed 337whp on stock fuel man, thats some crazy shit lol. Anyway, pumaspeed told me a 20-25whp increase and so far on all my fuels it has been around there.
    Yes hitting 300whp or above is pretty hard on stock fuel. I have found with all the hybrid turbos that they just are not efficient enough to hit that 300whp mark without getting into the 13:1 AFR's. The big turbo kits like ours do it pretty easy because they have such lower exhaust pressure, lower EGT's and are alot more efficient. if your guys tuners are running 12-13:1 afr up top i would not worry about it to much we have found it pretty safe with the big turbo kits. I would be worried egt's for prolonged afr's so like top speed runs or a ton of high rpm use. Meth or Aux should smooth you right out though.

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    I wonder what the x47 could do on 93 with aux fuel


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    Quote Originally Posted by frankiefiesta View Post
    I'm not trying to bash or start a fight.... but what happened to the "300whp on 93" claim???

    Seems like those dynos in the U.K. Read about 30whp higher huh?

    I'm sure the turbo is great and runs good, but you have to admit.. marketing strikes again!
    Quote Originally Posted by Crooked Letta View Post
    From the looks of it, you may be running out of fuel. Seems to be getting lean as the revs run out.
    Yea its going lean on top for sure. Wiring the kit today so will see how that does soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Based View Post
    I wonder what the x47 could do on 93 with aux fuel


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    running 12-13afr doesnt really hurt power just reliability due to heat build up. So with aux prob not much. Also if i add to that from the Focus and Fiesta we use very LITTLE aux on 93oct because the DI system is much more efficient to a point. When you add PI it can cause ignition timing to need to be a tad lower. Thats why we like using it with ethanol mixes or high octane fuels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHM View Post
    running 12-13afr doesnt really hurt power just reliability due to heat build up. So with aux prob not much. Also if i add to that from the Focus and Fiesta we use very LITTLE aux on 93oct because the DI system is much more efficient to a point. When you add PI it can cause ignition timing to need to be a tad lower. Thats why we like using it with ethanol mixes or high octane fuels.

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    Oh ok. Man it sucks that this thing isn't making 300whp on 93

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    Quote Originally Posted by Based View Post
    Oh ok. Man it sucks that this thing isn't making 300whp on 93

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    Any Fiesta with a hybrid that make 260-280whp is stout it's not easy to do. I'm sure with the perfect set up and right conditions that the x47 could do it. But your talking about a exhaust housing that in stock form the EMAP is 40-50psi. That's a big bottle neck hence the bigger exhaust wheels that puma put in. It's the only way to make it work. But you still have a small housing volume and ar to deal with. It's products like this that one day will produce 300/320/340whp hybrids. It's just time. Guys like Tony and brian will make it happen.

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    PumaSpeed x-47 Hybrid e30(CA91) Results - 288whp / 303tq

    Quote Originally Posted by Ish View Post
    x47 e30 last 4 runs



    Im happy with my results, I feel like they're realistic which is key;). That being said, it pulls so much harder than my x37 ever did. Now.. time to add some meth
    Had you run meth before with your x-37 hybrid installed?...Would be interesting seeing x-37 vs x47 meth comparison....That's if you have that data available?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostBumps View Post
    Had you run meth before with your x-37 hybrid installed?...Would be interesting seeing x-37 vs x47 meth comparison....That's if you have that data available?
    I was going to but then held back once i got word I was getting the x47. Barely going to wire it today lol


 
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