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    Quote Originally Posted by BionicBarnacle View Post
    Looking forward to seeing what this turbo can do!

    Question; you state "If you never plan on using any fuel but 91/93oct The Stage 2 is for you. If you are looking to run E30, Methanol, or both the Stage 2+ is your turbo of choice. If you want all out power, running Aux Fuel and E40/E50/Race Gas the Stage 2+ MF is your baby"...however, the spool for Stage 2+ MF is only 200-300 RPM later. So what would be the reasoning for not spending the extra $200 in case we ever wanted to run Aux Fuel and E40/E50/Race Gas? Or even just spending another $100 and getting Stage 2+ in case we want to run E30 or Meth at some point?

    I don't foresee myself running anything other than pump gas as E85 is extremely limited in New England, but should I ever move to where it is accessible I would like to be able to take advantage of that. Would a Stage 2+ or 2+ MF run worse on pump gas than the regular Stage 2? I'm just wondering why it makes sense to NOT future proof if there is no performance hit using the 2+ or 2+ MF on pump gas. Hopefully this question makes sense...
    My thoughts exact... Maybe we can see 300ish whp on 93 on the 2+ MF if the stock fuel system is capable of delivering around 330whp on non E-blends which should be wonderful for DD and then later down the road upgrade to AUX and run the advertised 350ish whp.... No!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BionicBarnacle View Post
    Looking forward to seeing what this turbo can do!

    Question; you state "If you never plan on using any fuel but 91/93oct The Stage 2 is for you. If you are looking to run E30, Methanol, or both the Stage 2+ is your turbo of choice. If you want all out power, running Aux Fuel and E40/E50/Race Gas the Stage 2+ MF is your baby"...however, the spool for Stage 2+ MF is only 200-300 RPM later. So what would be the reasoning for not spending the extra $200 in case we ever wanted to run Aux Fuel and E40/E50/Race Gas? Or even just spending another $100 and getting Stage 2+ in case we want to run E30 or Meth at some point?

    I don't foresee myself running anything other than pump gas as E85 is extremely limited in New England, but should I ever move to where it is accessible I would like to be able to take advantage of that. Would a Stage 2+ or 2+ MF run worse on pump gas than the regular Stage 2? I'm just wondering why it makes sense to NOT future proof if there is no performance hit using the 2+ or 2+ MF on pump gas. Hopefully this question makes sense...
    +1. I've yet to find an E85 pump in MA or NH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seijou View Post
    Just some follow up questions if you able:
    How much gains do you lose on w/o an upgraded downpipe? I would rather keep the downpipe stock due to CA smog.
    Additionally, in CA you can sometimes only get 91 octane. Sometimes I can get 92. So I plan to do nothing more than pump gas.
    With accessport, intercooler, and intake - can you predict what an owner like myself might gain? It will help owners who are in the same boat as me make an informed decision.

    Thanks very much...!
    Downpipe is recommended but not needed, under 300whp you are leaving about 15whp on the table. With 91oct being your really only option you will be fine as you won't be component limited you will be octane limited.

    Quote Originally Posted by BionicBarnacle View Post
    Looking forward to seeing what this turbo can do!

    Question; you state "If you never plan on using any fuel but 91/93oct The Stage 2 is for you. If you are looking to run E30, Methanol, or both the Stage 2+ is your turbo of choice. If you want all out power, running Aux Fuel and E40/E50/Race Gas the Stage 2+ MF is your baby"...however, the spool for Stage 2+ MF is only 200-300 RPM later. So what would be the reasoning for not spending the extra $200 in case we ever wanted to run Aux Fuel and E40/E50/Race Gas? Or even just spending another $100 and getting Stage 2+ in case we want to run E30 or Meth at some point?

    I don't foresee myself running anything other than pump gas as E85 is extremely limited in New England, but should I ever move to where it is accessible I would like to be able to take advantage of that. Would a Stage 2+ or 2+ MF run worse on pump gas than the regular Stage 2? I'm just wondering why it makes sense to NOT future proof if there is no performance hit using the 2+ or 2+ MF on pump gas. Hopefully this question makes sense...

    You can definitely go for the biggest turbo, I was just outlining what each one is targeted to. If you want to start on pump gas and grow into the Stage2+ MF you aren't going to be hurting yourself at all. In fact after final testing we might end up with only one turbo as each one is going to be tested on 91/93/E30/E50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tune+ View Post
    You can definitely go for the biggest turbo, I was just outlining what each one is targeted to. If you want to start on pump gas and grow into the Stage2+ MF you aren't going to be hurting yourself at all. In fact after final testing we might end up with only one turbo as each one is going to be tested on 91/93/E30/E50.
    Perfect, exactly what I was hoping to hear! Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandeFiesta View Post
    +1. I've yet to find an E85 pump in MA or NH
    I think there are only 2 in MA, on the flipside 100 octane is much more accessible where I live, like 300 ft from my house lol. Question becomes is it worth the $9.00 a gallon, have to wait and find out but I think regardless I will get a tune for 93 and 100 if I go this upgrade depending on results. E85 is a lot cheaper but 100 will yield more power if you are at the limit of the fuel system anyways and don't plan on adding aux fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crooked Letta View Post
    I think there are only 2 in MA, on the flipside 100 octane is much more accessible where I live, like 300 ft from my house lol. Question becomes is it worth the $9.00 a gallon, have to wait and find out but I think regardless I will get a tune for 93 and 100 if I go this upgrade depending on results. E85 is a lot cheaper but 100 will yield more power if you are at the limit of the fuel system anyways and don't plan on adding aux fuel.
    I keep forgetting that 100 is an option. Thanks for the reminder!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tune+ View Post
    We might beat them to the punch, I plan on having our port injection kit out before this turbo is released with true flex fuel compatibility.
    I dunno how you think you're gonna get away with bringing up flex fuel and then not talking about flex fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandeFiesta View Post
    I keep forgetting that 100 is an option. Thanks for the reminder!
    Meth or water/meth is also an option. I live very close to the MA line on CT. The only e85 pump I have seen is at one of the rest stops in Charlton, MA. It's about a 20 minute ride from my place.


 
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