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    Budget Coilovers or Lowering Springs: Help me decide!

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    So I'm looking for some advice on my suspension goals from those who have experience in the matter.

    Cost is a factor of course, so what I'm torn between is a cheaper coilover set or getting springs designed to work with OEM struts.

    Coilover options I'm weighing out include:
    Godspeed (~$630)
    Vogtland (~$750)
    Blisten PSS B14 (~$825) added per Ron@Whoosh's suggestion.

    Spring include
    Mountune (~$260)
    Vogtland (~$210)
    Swift Spec-R (~$320)
    H&R Sport (~$230)
    Swift and H&R added per Ron@Whoosh's suggestion, thanks!

    The most important question, what am I aiming to accomplish and why am I considering changing from stock? This is where I'm thinking a thread would be helpful as I'm there there are others with the following considerations.

    Driving style: Street, though interested in autocross. #1 focus would be for aggressive street driving on back roads and mountain roads.

    The OEM suspension does handle well to me, but there are some aspects i would like improved.

    I don't want something that's overly stiff and unbearable to drive. I'd like to reduce some of the bounciness that the OEM suspension has. This is a semi-daily driver. I have another daily, but I like being able to run around in this car.

    I've also got it in my mind that a better suspension can improve traction. I'd love to have better traction in a straight line on imperfect roads. The focus is street driving.

    Aesthetics are also a consideration, a little lower looks good. Nothing slammed, perhaps in the range of 0.5" to 1.0". Right now I'm on OEM wheels/tires. Eventually might move to a 7.5" or 8" wide wheel.

    Adjustability: the big advantage with coilovers is the adjustability. But knowing myself, I'm not going to mess with this much once it's set. If things work I don't like to mess with them. My Ducati has fully adjustable front forks and rear shock and I have never touched it because the way they're set works well and I don't want to mess that up.
    With coilovers a twice a year adjustment would be nice; raised up for the winter, back down for the summer.

    So weigh in! If you have alternatives you recommend let me hear them! Thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zissou View Post
    So I'm looking for some advice on my suspension goals from those who have experience in the matter.

    Cost is a factor of course, so what I'm torn between is a cheaper coilover set or getting springs designed to work with OEM struts.

    Coilover options I'm weighing out include:
    Godspeed (~$630)
    Vogtland (~$750)

    Spring include
    Mountune (~$260)
    Vogtland (~$210)

    The most important question, what am I aiming to accomplish and why am I considering changing from stock? This is where I'm thinking a thread would be helpful as I'm there there are others with the following considerations.

    Driving style: Street, though interested in autocross. #1 focus would be for aggressive street driving on back roads and mountain roads.

    The OEM suspension does handle well to me, but there are some aspects i would like improved.

    I don't want something that's overly stiff and unbearable to drive. I'd like to reduce some of the bounciness that the OEM suspension has. This is a semi-daily driver. I have another daily, but I like being able to run around in this car.

    I've also got it in my mind that a better suspension can improve traction. I'd love to have better traction in a straight line on imperfect roads. The focus is street driving.

    Aesthetics are also a consideration, a little lower looks good. Nothing slammed, perhaps in the range of 0.5" to 1.0". Right now I'm on OEM wheels/tires. Eventually might move to a 7.5" or 8" wide wheel.

    Adjustability: the big advantage with coilovers is the adjustability. But knowing myself, I'm not going to mess with this much once it's set. If things work I don't like to mess with them. My Ducati has fully adjustable front forks and rear shock and I have never touched it because the way they're set works well and I don't want to mess that up.
    With coilovers a twice a year adjustment would be nice; raised up for the winter, back down for the summer.

    So weigh in! If you have alternatives you recommend let me hear them! Thanks!


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    Thanks Ron! I'll certainly add these to my considerations. I'll edit my original post

    What is your take on the springs? Any clear leader or leaders among the lot? Especially with utilizing the OEM shocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zissou View Post
    Thanks Ron! I'll certainly add these to my considerations. I'll edit my original post

    What is your take on the springs? Any clear leader or leaders among the lot? Especially with utilizing the OEM shocks.
    ride comform, Mountune
    performance, Swift
    if you want to be low, H&R super sport
    The best middle ground in terms of drop and price is Eibach

    The Fiesta has cheap options for any spring type you want which is really tough to find with some other platforms

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    You could also put Swift coil over size springs over the Bilstein B14s, but then yes, you've 'wasted' the springs which come with that kit.

    If/when I do a non-coil over setup with either the Koni Sports, or the Bilstein B8s, no doubt whatsoever I am going with the Swift Spec-R springs, ALL from Ron!
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    I went from mountune springs to the B14's and its a night and day difference. I'm going to be selling the mountune springs off my car just havent posted it up yet if your looking to go that route and save some coin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperchargedTundra View Post
    I went from mountune springs to the B14's and its a night and day difference. I'm going to be selling the mountune springs off my car just havent posted it up yet if your looking to go that route and save some coin.
    Night and day in what regard? How do the Blistens out do the Mountune springs?

    Also let me know when you sell those springs. If I don't do coilovers those are my top or second choice. I might want to save some money for a set of 16" wheels, so used springs has my interest.


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    They not only are a lot more planted they also absorb the poor NY roads better. The car doesn't get jared like it use to. I didn't have any issues with the Mountune springs, one of my stock shocks began to leak and instead of replacing it I just bit the bullet and went to the coilovers. Being able to raise the car up some in the winter and lower in more in the summer sounded good too.

    The springs have been just sitting in my garage, tonight or tomorrow I'll grab a pic and post them up or I can email you pics if your interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron@whoosh View Post
    ride comform, Mountune
    performance, Swift
    if you want to be low, H&R super sport
    The best middle ground in terms of drop and price is Eibach

    The Fiesta has cheap options for any spring type you want which is really tough to find with some other platforms

    I'm a bit of a way off from getting a new suspension setup, but I'd like some opinions. I'm looking for something thats comfortable to DD but can still carve canyons on the weekend. I want to reduce the bounciness of the rear end without killing the fun basically.

    Eibach Springs with the B8 Dampers
    Mountune Springs with B8 Dampers (they call it their clubsport package)

    But for that price does it just make more sense to get the Bilstein B14 coilovers?

    I'm worried about what to do and I don't want to ruin my ride haha

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    For right out the gate, the Bilsteins may be unnecessary. My advice is get either spring (since they're both almost the same thing), install them and see how you like it. You may prefer the ride that way right out the gate and save yourself the funds on shocks/struts. Or you could do like others and replace the rears with Koni STR.T's. I have mountune/rear Koni on mine and I think the ride is vastly improved over stock.


 
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