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    Quote Originally Posted by Quisp View Post
    I'm wondering why Ford would waste development money if it didn't.
    For one, Ford wouldn't sell a car with a gauze style filter like the drop in panel filters. They don't filter well enough, the oil may contaminate the MAF sensor over time, and they are louder than the stock paper element.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quisp View Post
    I'm wondering why Ford would waste development money if it didn't.
    You're comparing apples to oranges. He said "maybe not enough gain to justify its cost" he didn't say that the intake doesn't provide any gain at all. The cost/benefit for a car owner to upgrade to ST200 v another intake and Ford's cost to develop the ST200 intake are two different things.
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    RMM, short shift plate and GFV DV or a BOV. Whoosh has a radium OCC on his site as an alternative to the Damond. I’d check that out as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apex1 View Post
    For one, Ford wouldn't sell a car with a gauze style filter like the drop in panel filters. They don't filter well enough, the oil may contaminate the MAF sensor over time, and they are louder than the stock paper element.
    I beg to differ, the Mountune MP215 uses the K&N and is sold and warranted by Ford. Only dummies that over oil a K&N filter have problems and nobody will have warranty problems with them properly used. I am pretty sure Ford did not develop the ST200 intake....I believe it was Mountune. As to filtering I have used K&N for 40 years on every car that they had a filter to fit. My BMW 320is had 300K and was still a dd when I donated it to a charity and never burned a drop of oil. Never had a car with any signs of wear from the air filter doing a poor job or an intake or air tube showing any dirt of dust internally. Since it is totally enclosed in an airbox with the Mountune MP215 there is no increase in intake noise with it on the ST. The short ram cones do indeed increase intake noise. The only real negative is that you must clean it and oil it rather than dropping one in. That is the main reason nobody offers them as factory stock. You can't get owners to check fluid levels much less deal with a K&N air filter. Besides Ford SELLS replaceable air filters by the hundreds of thousands a day. A K&N is a one time purchase.


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    Personally we recommend CPE Intercooler, Cobb AP, Tune Plus tune, either modify your OEM air box and do a panel filter or buy the mountune box & then pickup the FSwerks shift plate & all of the boomba shift bushings! You’ll love it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmrtsus View Post
    I beg to differ, the Mountune MP215 uses the K&N and is sold and warranted by Ford. Only dummies that over oil a K&N filter have problems and nobody will have warranty problems with them properly used. I am pretty sure Ford did not develop the ST200 intake....I believe it was Mountune. As to filtering I have used K&N for 40 years on every car that they had a filter to fit. My BMW 320is had 300K and was still a dd when I donated it to a charity and never burned a drop of oil. Never had a car with any signs of wear from the air filter doing a poor job or an intake or air tube showing any dirt of dust internally. Since it is totally enclosed in an airbox with the Mountune MP215 there is no increase in intake noise with it on the ST. The short ram cones do indeed increase intake noise. The only real negative is that you must clean it and oil it rather than dropping one in. That is the main reason nobody offers them as factory stock. You can't get owners to check fluid levels much less deal with a K&N air filter. Besides Ford SELLS replaceable air filters by the hundreds of thousands a day. A K&N is a one time purchase.
    " Ford and Mountune worked very closely together when developing the original Mountune kit – to such an extent in fact that, according to the ST200’s programme chief, the intellectual property rights remained with Ford. This allowed it to easily implement a similar strategy of intake mods... Mountune remains Ford’s officially endorsed partner, however, so don’t think there’s been a falling out."

    http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-rev...0-2016-review/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirThomas88 View Post
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    That's what I currently have installed on my car, I got it for $120 but I had to purchase a Woosh motorsports adapter for it not to throw any CEL codes since I have a 2016+ model. The sound is great and the throttle response is improved, and butt-dyno says theres a few HP gained in there. Compared to the other intake options, besides the improvement in induction noise, the best part is I didn't have to spend much money for it.
    Are you freaking serious? An INTAKE will throw a CEL on a 2016+? WTF.. Ya, just gonna stick with the Mountune package for $589 and you get AP w/way better than Cobb OTS tune, RMM and drop in, DONE... (*until I go turbo upgrade anyway...lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by danbfree View Post
    Are you freaking serious? An INTAKE will throw a CEL on a 2016+? WTF.. Ya, just gonna stick with the Mountune package for $589 and you get AP w/way better than Cobb OTS tune, RMM and drop in, DONE... (*until I go turbo upgrade anyway...lol)
    No code if you use a FORD hose to connect without bypassing emissions like the Woosh. So it comes down to warranty and legality. Do you feel lucky?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmrtsus View Post
    No code if you use a FORD hose to connect without bypassing emissions like the Woosh. So it comes down to warranty and legality. Do you feel lucky?
    Emissions as in the crank case and bypass return hose? So I think I read correctly before if you want to use a BOV or VTA you have to use an adapter? Also, catch cans are a great idea if you plan on keeping the car more than 60k miles, these DI engines get nasty carbon buildup...


 
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