bluefin stage 2

[FiestaIL]

Hey guys,
I have EU 2017 model Fiesta ST and I was looking at this:
http://shop.grahamgoode.com/ggr-fie...superchips-st240-ggf5240-ggrst240-73448-p.asp

It says +61HP with only induction kit.. Anyone here that has this?
How 'engine safe' do you think this is. Because I'm not looking into blowing mine

Thanks guys!

 

[brbauer2]

Seems like total BS. The air intake might get you +5hp, nowhere near 60.

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[FiestaIL]

Seems like total BS. The air intake might get you +5hp, nowhere near 60.

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it's not only the induction kit... that's a car map but they only require an induction kit while other companies require air filter, downpipe, etc...

 

[brbauer2]

I'm Stage 3 E30 from Stratified, I doubt I'm +60hp.

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[Ylli]

Hello my friend

I have installed the exact same kit, except my Fiesta is a 2015 model.

I don't know if you really get your 240 hp, but it sure as hell is fast after this. I'd say it's really safe, I've put quite a few miles on it since the install and I floor it every day as soon as the engine is warm. Nice power curve too I roll race anyone who tries to mess with the Little Fiesta and a lot of cars get stomped by the Fiesta lol, our europe spec Fiesta is 1200 kg.. You do the maths of kg per hp and compare to golf r and its kind ;P

I'd say 220-225 hp as the tune is the Thing that makes most hp.. other kits with downpipe requirements only rip you off and in switzerland I will never Need an intercooler on a stock turbo

Soon a big Turbo is going on this Little beast

 

[apex1]

One thing to keep in mind is that the Euro car is listed at 179 bhp while the US is 197 bhp, even though they make the same power. The US output is while in overboost, while the Euro number can't be listed on overboost. So 18 hp is the difference there and this kit adds "only" 42 hp in US speak. 42 hp for an intake and reflash with stock everything else and no E30? That sounds optimistic to me, as suggested above by Ylli who has it installed.

 

[Ylli]

One thing to keep in mind is that the Euro car is listed at 179 bhp while the US is 197 bhp, even though they make the same power. The US output is while in overboost, while the Euro number can't be listed on overboost. So 18 hp is the difference there and this kit adds "only" 42 hp in US speak. 42 hp for an intake and reflash with stock everything else and no E30? That sounds optimistic to me, as suggested above by Ylli who has it installed.

Exactly! Nonetheless I would go for it as it‘s the cheapest power for a EU spec FiST.

It sure as hell feels like 240 hp, maybe because of less weight than US fiesta and our 95 pump gas? That, or the huge low down torque..

 

[brbauer2]

Exactly! Nonetheless I would go for it as it‘s the cheapest power for a EU spec FiST.

It sure as hell feels like 240 hp, maybe because of less weight than US fiesta and our 95 pump gas? That, or the huge low down torque..

Your 95 is like our 91.

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[Ylli]

Your 95 is like our 91.

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Sorry, I should have clarified: I converted it to your octane rating.. we have 100 RON at pump stations, which equals to your 95 octane rating

 

[brbauer2]

Sorry, I should have clarified: I converted it to your octane rating.. we have 100 RON at pump stations, which equals to your 95 octane rating

We don't have 95 Octane [emoji24]

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[LaserWhisperer]

The item in question claims 240bhp, which is not the same as whp.
I would estimate that it's safe to assume that an FWD car would lose about 15% power due to drivetrain losses.

So
240(bhp)*0.85 = 204whp
343 N*m *0.737 = 252ft/lb.

By those numbers, would put this tune on par with Cobb Stage 2, or roughly thereabouts.

Their claim is accurate, just need to adjust scales and perspective.

 

[apex1]

The item in question claims 240bhp, which is not the same as whp.
I would estimate that it's safe to assume that an FWD car would lose about 15% power due to drivetrain losses.

So
240(bhp)*0.85 = 204whp
343 N*m *0.737 = 252ft/lb.

By those numbers, would put this tune on par with Cobb Stage 2, or roughly thereabouts.

Their claim is accurate, just need to adjust scales and perspective.

If you follow the OP's link to the website, they have dyno graphs showing their claimed numbers. That seems like their claimed numbers are wheel horsepower and torque.

 

[LaserWhisperer]

If you follow the OP's link to the website, they have dyno graphs showing their claimed numbers. That seems like their claimed numbers are wheel horsepower and torque.

I did originally. If you notice on the left side of the plots, is clearly states BHP an N*m
Hence my calculations and conversions

 

[drg]

http://dvxperformance.com/stage/ford/fiesta/mk7-2013-2017/3773/st-16t/2
Take a look here

Better options than Bluefin are DVX, Pumaspeed, Peron...