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Hid help
- Thread starter Chrisryan805
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What I personally don't like about the Euro housing are they are all chrome, vs our headlights which are semi blacked out.
A proper and professional retrofit, is by far a better option. The Euro headlights have a projector, but it's also halogen not technically made for HID's.
If you look at Black Flame Custom, they did a retrofit on a Fiesta.
A proper and professional retrofit, is by far a better option. The Euro headlights have a projector, but it's also halogen not technically made for HID's.
If you look at Black Flame Custom, they did a retrofit on a Fiesta.
Hello, first time poster here. Got my Fist today. Bottom of post for background.
To the topic: having the one hid bulb go out is very common for HID retrofits or modifications. I can't remember off the top of my head but if you search you will find you need to run a relay and get your power directly from the battery for the light, connect the control part of the relay to your headlight switch and ground on the lights to an actual ground point; not a splice or existing connection. It is always a bad idea to piggyback from original head light power and ground. If you have already done this you should search for this problem in general, not particular to the Fist.
Also in agreement with other in this thread: Using HID's in a halogen housing is a very poor choice, for the reasons listed below:
1. Worse for everyone else on the road; due to the poor reflection of the halogen housing. Light scatter is everyone's enemy and it just screams to any car guy that you are ignorant about lights or worse just don't give a shit about anyone else on the road.
2. Although the headlights appear brighter, your distance is lower. This is due to HID's being designed to be projected (hence the name projector) not reflected (halogen, incandescent). So again you perceive that they are better but they are just lighting up everything around you, not directly down the highway.
3. The higher kelvin rating (higher than 3500k) is actually worse for viewing distance. When the light begins to look blue, you are already losing distance. Yellow is the best, and white is a good halfway point between asthetic and function. 4200K is where you should draw the line, its give the nicest a appearance with the least amount of drop-off.
4. The lens in Halogen housing are cheaper and designed for halogen, they will eventually yellow from the HID's. This is also an issue in cheaper cars such as KIA's and not limited to mods.
You can google all the things i've mentioned.
I am new to fist but old hat to the modification community. I had a mildly modded '07 mazdaspeed 3 (400whp DD dyno), '03 stock Focus SVT-used, currently have an '14 Audi SQ5 (stock), '08 Evo GSR 570awhp on 94oct fully built and a Chevy Avalanche with 330,000KM. Got the fiesta to replace the Focus.
To the topic: having the one hid bulb go out is very common for HID retrofits or modifications. I can't remember off the top of my head but if you search you will find you need to run a relay and get your power directly from the battery for the light, connect the control part of the relay to your headlight switch and ground on the lights to an actual ground point; not a splice or existing connection. It is always a bad idea to piggyback from original head light power and ground. If you have already done this you should search for this problem in general, not particular to the Fist.
Also in agreement with other in this thread: Using HID's in a halogen housing is a very poor choice, for the reasons listed below:
1. Worse for everyone else on the road; due to the poor reflection of the halogen housing. Light scatter is everyone's enemy and it just screams to any car guy that you are ignorant about lights or worse just don't give a shit about anyone else on the road.
2. Although the headlights appear brighter, your distance is lower. This is due to HID's being designed to be projected (hence the name projector) not reflected (halogen, incandescent). So again you perceive that they are better but they are just lighting up everything around you, not directly down the highway.
3. The higher kelvin rating (higher than 3500k) is actually worse for viewing distance. When the light begins to look blue, you are already losing distance. Yellow is the best, and white is a good halfway point between asthetic and function. 4200K is where you should draw the line, its give the nicest a appearance with the least amount of drop-off.
4. The lens in Halogen housing are cheaper and designed for halogen, they will eventually yellow from the HID's. This is also an issue in cheaper cars such as KIA's and not limited to mods.
You can google all the things i've mentioned.
I am new to fist but old hat to the modification community. I had a mildly modded '07 mazdaspeed 3 (400whp DD dyno), '03 stock Focus SVT-used, currently have an '14 Audi SQ5 (stock), '08 Evo GSR 570awhp on 94oct fully built and a Chevy Avalanche with 330,000KM. Got the fiesta to replace the Focus.
Two ideas for this, first if someone gets the Euro LHD cutoff projectors, they can probably remove the factory projector housing and find a HID projector housing to fit without much modification. But then you have 700$ in lights and 400$+ in an HID projector setup. Bit steep.
Other idea goes back to Projector retrofits, artists work speaks for themselves. There are some GREAT guys out there doing the work, they are not "hacked' up by any means. You get what you pay for, if someone charges you 600$ for a complete retro on both headlights, and the equipment alone is 400$, expect a 200$ hacked up headlight. Id certainly go for the retrofit method but it poses another problem, finding a spare set of headlights to send or install on the car (depending on which set is in better condition).
Other idea goes back to Projector retrofits, artists work speaks for themselves. There are some GREAT guys out there doing the work, they are not "hacked' up by any means. You get what you pay for, if someone charges you 600$ for a complete retro on both headlights, and the equipment alone is 400$, expect a 200$ hacked up headlight. Id certainly go for the retrofit method but it poses another problem, finding a spare set of headlights to send or install on the car (depending on which set is in better condition).
Given that nobody gets pulled over for having horribly adjusted PNP HID kits, i highly doubt a bright, but well adjusted projector retrofit would cause you to be pulled over by the police. If they are adjusted correctly no cop will even notice, and if they do how on earth would they tell on the spot that they are not OEM and/or DOT approved. Maybe if you live in a state or country where they actually do a full car inspection (thankfully i live in Arizona, we do not have that issue) then you could have a potential problem.
The brightest halogen lights will pale in comparison to a properly setup HID projector. But i absolutely concede that having a properly done install may be difficult if not impossibly, certainly expensive. Another reason im waiting to see someone have it done before i even attempt to take the plunge.
The brightest halogen lights will pale in comparison to a properly setup HID projector. But i absolutely concede that having a properly done install may be difficult if not impossibly, certainly expensive. Another reason im waiting to see someone have it done before i even attempt to take the plunge.
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