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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourskittle View Post
    The AFR was 11.6 at 5,000rpm.

    I was doing the log to watch AFR without lag, but the timing stopped me from even making a full pull.

    While true, 33psi is a lot to ask from pump gas, it's also clear that 33psi with meth's octane assist is no problem. So not only does it let me run 6-7 degrees more timing, it lets me run an un-known more amount of boost pressure, which only highlights how much people have to gain from Meth injection.

    I'm not sure how it can be unknown...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    I'm not sure how it can be unknown...


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    It's un-know for now because I have to turn the timing and boost down to see where it's happy on 93oct. Let's say it's 28psi max on 93oct. Then it's a difference of 5 psi and 6-7 degrees of timing that meth has let me add.
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    At the end of the day.... I sell hybrid turbos. And if you want to prove a point, you normally have to do it yourself ;)

    Anyone interested ?

    External wastegate + dump tube
    Inlet, downpipe ( and full exhaust if you are local and want it ). Oil/water lines.

    I'll prob keep it. But if someone is interested, I would be willing to sell it...
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    If only this was a td05h....

    Make it easy for me and tell me what lines you used for water/oil so I can eventually go 16g.

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    So the "not for sale" turbo is now for sale?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beans View Post
    If only this was a td05h....

    Make it easy for me and tell me what lines you used for water/oil so I can eventually go 16g.
    You actually don't want a TD05. I'm prob going to keep this turbo setup and "down grade" the turbine wheel back to the stock Volvo 12-blade for better spool up over the higher flowing 9-blade. It's pretty clear the exhaust wheel isn't hurting things on the big end.

    Another forum member was building a super interesting TD05 based setup using an EVO turbo. Even I was interested. But the packaging of the evo turbo spinning backwards, and the general cost the titanium turbine wheel made it a bit much for me. But a really cool setup. Not sure where he went. But all his rotating parts were larger and heavier over the TD04HL parts ( because it's a larger bearing center section and all ). But after what I've learned with this turbo, I'm happy I went the TD04HL route over the TD05. And if anything, a more restrictive, yet faster spooling turbine is what I'd like, not a much larger TD05 turbine. And the compressor wheel in this turbo is the size of a TD05H-18G. It's reasonably large for a TD05. In a TD04HL, it's a beast. Besides the 9-blade turbine, I wouldn't change anything about this turbo at all. And it's pretty clear, the turbine in it, is not hurting anything but feelings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masonsturbos View Post
    So the "not for sale" turbo is now for sale?


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    You really don't have anything better to do ? Like install or tune something ?
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    Good points there, it's just SO easy to source a drop in 16g (big/small, Evo8/9/10, any of the FP variants) for dirt cheap I don't see the point, especially when I'm thinking more camshaft and RPM. I'd give up a few hundred RPM of spool for the development /durability that's happened with the td05h stuff compared to the td04l's. Not to mention the housing options.

    It's a pretty active DSM market in my area, too.

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    I know some folks in the Volvo world that had good results with the evo turbos. Granted, on the old redblock cars you have enough engine bay space to build a J-pipe and just weld the weird Evo exhaust flange on. Like SS said, the amount of work for our application may not be worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beans View Post
    Good points there, it's just SO easy to source a drop in 16g (big/small, Evo8/9/10, any of the FP variants) for dirt cheap I don't see the point, especially when I'm thinking more camshaft and RPM. I'd give up a few hundred RPM of spool for the development /durability that's happened with the td05h stuff compared to the td04l's. Not to mention the housing options.

    It's a pretty active DSM market in my area, too.
    The TD04HL-19T will move the same as a small 16G compressor wise. This is what they refer to as a "TD04HL-23T". But like I said, it's basically a TD05H-18G wheel but will better aero design.

    The Volvo guys have 2.3L and 2.5L's to play with. The 1.6L just isn't going to spool a turbo like they will.

    For RPM this is your turbo, lol. I mean.... if your looking for more than 360-370whp ( maybe 380whp ), then you prob should be looking at a DHM Garrett kit.

    I'm not really trying to sell this, but if someone wanted it, I would sell it. If you look at the pages of this Thread, it wasn't done over a weekend.

    Like I said, I was all about that ti-turbine wheel and all that, but after now having experience with this.... sorry.... no way I'd run a TD05 on this car. And that's not me trying to sell this... By the name of the thread, it was never built to be something I sold. But that's just my honest opinion.

    The TD04HL does have housing options. But these are the biggest ones. So you
    Could only go smaller, not bigger. But like I said, if you want more than 360whp, you should prob be looking at a Gen2 GTX2860 or GTX2867.

    No durability issues with TD04's. The new Porsche Macan uses twin TD04HL turbos on its V6.

    Now.... run a TD04-13G on a 7500rpm DSM 2.0L and yea.... your kind of asking a lot lol. With a 18G compressor wheel, the Rpms drop drastically and reliability actually improves despite the heavier comp wheel.
    291 WHP @6000rpm / 293 TQ@3900rpm VD ( NOT BHP )
    13.34@104.5mph "Show me the carfax"/trap speed

    Cyborg Stock Upgraded Turbo setup
    http://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/threads/2857-Cyborg-upgraded-stock-Turbocharger-system


 
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