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    Yeah that sounds like right where the 'stat is full open. Higher elevation means less air-density, which makes cooling notably less efficient.

    Whether I'm hard on the accelerator or not doesn't seem to make much of a difference on peak; just how quickly it heats up.

    The Motorcraft FL-400S was the stock filter for my '94 Ford Escort, a 1.9L Single Overhead Cam with a massive 88hp. How large the filter is, may not be the only characteristic to look at. What are the flow characteristics and MTFB specifications for example?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intuit View Post
    The Motorcraft FL-400S was the stock filter for my '94 Ford Escort, a 1.9L Single Overhead Cam with a massive 88hp. How large the filter is, may not be the only characteristic to look at. What are the flow characteristics and MTFB specifications for example?
    AGREED.

    But, many on here have used these for many miles with no noticed 'ill effects' (and yes, I know that does NOT prove that they are optimal ;) ).

    Also, IF you trust Mountune's engineering judgement AT ALL (MANY on here do not it seems, going by the all-out, animus-driven flame wars in other threads about their MRX kit ), they have the 400-S for sale right on their site as the ONLY replacement oil filter they sell for this app.
    Last edited by M-Sport fan; 08-13-2017 at 12:26 AM.
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    I heard the filter was redesigned. At any rate, the 400 is bigger than the stock oil filter. Nothing wrong with that. One of those oil review sites cut this filter and others to compare... it did well. I think some other company makes them for ford anyway. All I know is that it's the biggest filter I can fit between the MAP cold side pipe and this new radiator.

    I don't know about Mountune's other stuff but this radiator (which is made by CSC or someone) is so much better than stock! I haven't seen anyone post numbers in triple digit numbers of the Mishimoto that are any better. They seem to do similar, but without the added size and modification needed. Car doesn't even approach 200F for coolant even in 110F heavy traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayrod1980 View Post
    I don't know about Mountune's other stuff but this radiator (which is made by CSC or someone) is so much better than stock! I haven't seen anyone post numbers in triple digit numbers of the Mishimoto that are any better. They seem to do similar, but without the added size and modification needed. Car doesn't even approach 200F for coolant even in 110F heavy traffic.
    The company which Mountune sub-contracts for their radiators is CSF.

    That is great to hear about this radiator, since it is the aftermarket one I will go to if/once I start having problems with the factory unit (which might be sooner than later since so many on here claim that the cp-e IC will not allow enough flow-through air to the factory radiator, raising coolant temps, due to it being bar and plate construction ).
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    Sorry, I got the acronym for the manufacturer wrong. It's very pretty in person. I can tell you, the MAP cold side pipe is very berry... stainless steel and it sits directly against the fan shroud with this intercooler. I can only imagine how much the shroud, even in aftermarket configuration, would butt against the cold side charge pipe. With the Mountune radiator, I will sand down the shroud an inch or so (it's about 2 inches thick at that point). Everything is okay already but it seems like vibrations are worse because the shroud butts against the cold pipe, which is bolted to the engine. Coupled with the Cobb motor mount, vibration feels worse, but then again, in hot conditions my A/C is running all the time... which makes vibrations harsh. I'll let you know if sanding down the shroud near the pipe helps. I couldn't imagine how much the mishi radiator and shroud interfere with aftermarket charge pipes, considering the size difference of the mishi vs the Mountune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayrod1980 View Post
    I heard the filter was redesigned. At any rate, the 400 is bigger than the stock oil filter. Nothing wrong with that. One of those oil review sites cut this filter and others to compare... it did well. I think some other company makes them for ford anyway. All I know is that it's the biggest filter I can fit between the MAP cold side pipe and this new radiator.

    I don't know about Mountune's other stuff but this radiator (which is made by CSC or someone) is so much better than stock! I haven't seen anyone post numbers in triple digit numbers of the Mishimoto that are any better. They seem to do similar, but without the added size and modification needed. Car doesn't even approach 200F for coolant even in 110F heavy traffic.
    I noticed the changes when they redesigned the filter. [smile] Based upon my photo, that was probably 2009 or 2010. The redesigned filter was actually smaller...
    https://1drv.ms/i/s!AhsZJDCN8kMMgkDXlz9zT1IwaxHf
    http://www.feoa.net/threads/1998-zx2...0/#post-737602
    http://www.feoa.net/threads/motorcra...-2#post-665113
    ...as my comments above point out, bigger is not always better. (particularly if you change your oil often) It is certainly possible that another refresh was done since then; changes not being so obvious this time around. In any regard, reportedly Ford still warranties the powertrain even with specific Mountune kits and M-Sport says Mountune vetted the filter. So it's probably all good.

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    This is a typical ~25mi trip(highway w/ cruise set @ 70mph) for me. Data collection purposes only:
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    Even when ambient temps are upto 20-25 degrees higher it pretty much logs identically except for the C/IAT's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightcrew13 View Post
    This is a typical ~25mi trip(highway w/ cruise set @ 70mph) for me. Data collection purposes only:
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    Even when ambient temps are upto 20-25 degrees higher it pretty much logs identically except for the C/IAT's.
    You still have the factory IC (according to your sig)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Sport fan View Post
    You still have the factory IC (according to your sig)?
    Yep sure do.
    Did a backroads 30 mile run today and forgot to take a dang picture... it's weird car heats up a lot more at a steady highway cruise than stop and go (NOT city driving) and spirited driving.
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    Has anybody ever verified coolant temps to the diaplayed temp on the Accessport? I know on fully cold starts my AP is already reading coolant temps about 15deg hotter than it should. For example this morning it was 85F and as soon as I started it up and the AP loaded, it was reading 103F. There's no way my coolant wasn't at ambient. There's also no way it warmed up 18deg in 5 seconds.

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