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View: https://youtu.be/_jaYXZcMF_Y


nice review of the car - seems like more of these videos are being made (also Dudeinblue) with people realizing what they have let go, and what makes for a good drivers car. Absence makes the heart etc etc.

Loved the line, “The Fiesta ST will go down in history as one of the all time great hot hatches”
 


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Guess he didn't notice that the passenger side is quiet a bit narrower than the driver.
Should I point them to the "water intrusion" thread for the dankness? 😋

Didn't know what those sideskirt cut-outs were for. Those for the scissor jack?

If they brought it back as an advanced EV with universal hot-swappable reserve battery packs...
 


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Guess he didn't notice that the passenger side is quiet a bit narrower than the driver.
Should I point them to the "water intrusion" thread for the dankness? 😋

Didn't know what those sideskirt cut-outs were for. Those for the scissor jack?

If they brought it back as an advanced EV with universal hot-swappable reserve battery packs...
Noticed this unanswered question - the cutouts on the side-skirts are so the car can be easily picked up on a the 2-post lifts that are ubiquitous in most auto shops and have arms that come in from the sides. Since the ST has pinch welds that are quite recessed, a lift is is less safe if you have to use spacers/extensions to pick it up without crushing the skirts
 


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Guess he didn't notice that the passenger side is quiet a bit narrower than the driver.
Should I point them to the "water intrusion" thread for the dankness? 😋

Didn't know what those sideskirt cut-outs were for. Those for the scissor jack?

If they brought it back as an advanced EV with universal hot-swappable reserve battery packs...
When they worn out are you going to bury those battery packs right over the pickup for your well? Do you really think that a solar roof will keep your battery charged? Note, I have yet to see one single news story about expanding the Electric Grid in the US to meet the demands of an all Electric Fleet of vehicles. I also have yet to see one single news story about Lithium Ion batteries actually being recycled on a Production basis, right now every single battery gets parked in a field somewhere or buried in a landfill.
 


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When they worn out are you going to bury those battery packs right over the pickup for your well? Do you really think that a solar roof will keep your battery charged? Note, I have yet to see one single news story about expanding the Electric Grid in the US to meet the demands of an all Electric Fleet of vehicles. I also have yet to see one single news story about Lithium Ion batteries actually being recycled on a Production basis, right now every single battery gets parked in a field somewhere or buried in a landfill.
An abundance of straw men there ain't it? 😆
That's like me "asking": 'Do you really think fossil fuels should forever remain the sole source for power generation?'
You never expressed that opinion anywhere... even remotely. So why would I "ask" or rather, rhetorically question your belief in that extreme position?

If you're actually curious, this is my vision...
https://www.fjrowners.com/threads/would-you-tour-on-a-electric-motorcycle.155127/post-1321184

Unfortunately the same or similar can be said for many forms of recycling, including electronics. All of it is government subsidized in one form or another. Our local government subsidizes (provides for) the collection of paper, plastic and aluminum for example. Recycling is complicated and costly because there are often few workarounds for the manual labor of sorting, transporting, sorting, filtering, destructing, filtering, sorting, transporting, storing, before finally beginning to redistribute the raw materials for reuse. In order for recycling to become a go-to, the normal costs and processes of locating and extracting raw materials have to significantly exceed the cost of recycling; which typically only occurs as such resources become more scarce. In today's world it's not just enough to make a profit. To get investments and interest one must focus on maximum profit.

One thing to remember is, nearly all recycling start out with these same challenges. One exception might be composting. 😉
https://www.bing.com/search?q=li-ion+battery+recycling+process
https://metchem.com/lithium-ion-battery-recycling-process-equipment/
 


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This looks like a good spot to park this, since it came from YouTube! Ouch! One of our sister's did a no-no...(it is a fist, isn't it?) Yeah - it's a crash video, my version of Coffee and Cars in the morning.
 


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The company I work for made parts for the Fisker Karma, they were actually for the battery cooling system. So I have had some early exposure to Lithium Ion Batteries. BTW, if you don't know what a Superfund site is then google it. You are going to see this term used a lot in the coming years.

There is warehouse in New Jersey that is now a Superfund sight because 138 of those cars were parked there when hurricane Sandy hit. Submerging lithium ion batteries in salt water was a very bad thing with those early lithium ion batteries.

Fact, high capacity lithium ion batteries cannot be transported by Air in the US. There is too much risk that a defect in one cell in the battery can cause it to blow up and set the entire battery pack on fire. The other issue is the energy capacity of these batteries. In some cases there is an energy equivalent to a couple of cases of Dynamite. While the energy release for Dynamite is extremely rapid the energy released by a lithium ion battery is also quite rapid and potentially deadly. As a result your "hot swap" dream will NEVER be realized. Note, think about it, if it were possible to be done safely NASCAR would already have a trial series going on for electric cars.

So go ahead and dream, nearly everyone was an idealist when they were young with great big dreams. Just realise that in about 20 years you'll be looking back and thinking "how could I be so dumb". I was part of the Vietnam Protest generation and we thought we could bring peace to the planet if we got people to talk to each other. You can see how well that turned out. What I learned is to to Trust No One and verify anything I've been told.

As for Green Energy, I'm all for it. However anything that involves a toxic material like Lithium is not "green", it's far from it and has the potential for polluting the sub surface water all over the world. So, what is truly "Green"? How about combusting Hydrogen and Oxygen. Zero Carbon compounds involved in that process and the ONLY product of this particular combustion process is pure Water, fully drinkable and 100% pure. Yeah, we would be adding water vapor to the atmosphere but doing that might just make the Sahara Desert a green land where food could be produced while reducing the global mean temperature.

BTW there is a video on Youtube about the Green Sahara and it's well worth watching.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHNX1o7X6wUThe


Transition from a lush land to desert took about 200 years and it's amazing how quickly the climate can change due to factors well beyond the ability of the Human Race to do anything about them.
 


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BTW, if you don't know what a Superfund site is then google it. You are going to see this term used a lot in the coming years.
Scooter, everyone you speak with is not as ignorant as you assume them to be. Rather than further derail this one, please start a new thread.

"Superfund Sites And Oil Refineries Already Poisoning Storm-Wracked Houston"
https://popularresistance.org/super...ries-already-poisoning-storm-wracked-houston/


"5 myths about lithium-ion you should know"
https://www.forbesindia.com/blog/climate-change/5-myths-about-lithium-ion-you-should-know/



"You can still ship stand-alone lithium batteries if they comply with ..."
https://www.globaltrainingcenter.co...n-batteries-revised-for-the-2022-regulations/


https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/...ion-on-sr-99-in-elk-grove-suspect-fled-scene/
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As for Green Energy, I'm all for it. Just realise that in about 20 years you'll be looking back and thinking "how could I be so dumb".
Did you seriously buy a Fiesta ST because you thought it was "green"? Hate to break it to you, but you still should asking yourself "how could I be so dumb". The MPG ain't that great; especially for a small car. Your problem is in thinking, assuming that EVs are all about "being green". You really think dude built "The White Zombie" to "be green"? 🤣 Dude, that torque hauls ass. IF you don't believe me, put your FiST next to a heavy Tesla on the starting line.
 


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