14’ Tuxedo Black | TURDBO BUILD

[M-Sport fan]

Fluid Film will be your best friend - shoot that sheep grease everywhere! Just keeps the water off the metal so that rust doesn't propagate.

^^^THAT, plus maybe consider power washing the salt soup off on any NON 'salt soup' dry days above 33*F (IF you get any of those!) you have the chance.

POR-15 even before any Fluid Film applications will also slow down the creeping corrosion.

 

[xxiaze]

Fluid Film will be your best friend - shoot that sheep grease everywhere! Just keeps the water off the metal so that rust doesn't propagate.

Do I need to treat with anything before hand? What’s the best permanent solution? That por15 stuff? I will not be driving it during winters anymore. Moving into restoring it etc etc

 

[xxiaze]

^^^THAT, plus maybe consider power washing the salt soup off on any NON 'salt soup' dry days above 33*F (IF you get any of those!) you have the chance.

POR-15 even before any Fluid Film applications will also slow down the creeping corrosion.

I didn’t see this! I think this sounds proper and nice. I’ll look into the double application.

 

[xxiaze]

WD 40 will also do the same thing but will need continuous applications during the winter...Food for thought*

I’ll hit it with wd40 for this winters storage until next spring

 

[shouldbeasy]

Do I need to treat with anything before hand? What’s the best permanent solution? That por15 stuff? I will not be driving it during winters anymore. Moving into restoring it etc etc

Yep - POR-15 and then Fluid Film is my go to for keeping rust at bay.

Lots of prep for POR-15 though, for the areas you can't reach, shoot Fluid Film inside and it will 'attach' to the metal and won't allow the water to ever touch it (can't cause rust).

 

[shouldbeasy]

I’ll hit it with wd40 for this winters storage until next spring

WD-40 will displace the water once, but not stick to the surface like Fluid Film. The viscosity is too low and it runs off with gravity - Fluid Film does as its name suggests, leaves a film of fluid on any surface. I love the stuff but fuckin' hate it too - end up sooooo gross after wrenching on the underside of my 4Runner.

 

[xxiaze]

Yep - POR-15 and then Fluid Film is my go to for keeping rust at bay.

Lots of prep for POR-15 though, for the areas you can't reach, shoot Fluid Film inside and it will 'attach' to the metal and won't allow the water to never touch it (can't cause rust).

Should I just invest in the whole POR product group for prep for etc? I think they have the cleaner and then etcher + the POR15. Do you use the spray can of the POR or the can and a roller or something? I see they make a thinner for like a spray gun, but I feel like it would be best to apply with a brush or roller because I’ll be doing it with everything still installed on the vehicle. Less mess or overspray I would think. Better yet, would you mind sending me a link(s) to the product(s). It seems like there are multiple options...

 

[Se7eN]

What’s the best permanent solution?

Move somewhere that doesn't snow at all and don't live next to a beach.

 

[xxiaze]

Move somewhere that doesn't snow at all and don't live next to a beach.

Tell my wife!

 

[shouldbeasy]

Should I just invest in the whole POR product group for prep for etc? I think they have the cleaner and then etcher + the POR15. Do you use the spray can of the POR or the can and a roller or something? I see they make a thinner for like a spray gun, but I feel like it would be best to apply with a brush or roller because I’ll be doing it with everything still installed on the vehicle. Less mess or overspray I would think. Better yet, would you mind sending me a link(s) to the product(s). It seems like there are multiple options...

Yes, use POR-15's prep products as I've had the best results with their prep and then application.

I use a paint brush whenever I have to apply POR-15 - and make sure they're cheap brushes as they're one use items. The stuff DOES NOT COME OFF SKIN so you best wear a set of clothes you don't particularly like and make sure you're covered up as best you can. Using a scouring pad to scrub the shit off is not enjoyable.

 

[xxiaze]

Yes, use POR-15's prep products as I've had the best results with their prep and then application.

I use a paint brush whenever I have to apply POR-15 - and make sure they're cheap brushes as they're one use items. The stuff DOES NOT COME OFF SKIN so you best wear a set of clothes you don't particularly like and make sure you're covered up as best you can. Using a scouring pad to scrub the shit off is not enjoyable.

Righto I’ll grab the 3 pack then and attack it that way. Should 1quart be sufficient for a double coat on all parts underneath? Also, for the fluid film should I grab a gallon or just a couple spray cans or what? Not sure how the gallon can would hold up... if it stores FOREVER I might just buy that and paint it on as well?? Or are the spray cans best?

 

[TyphoonFiST]

Righto I’ll grab the 3 pack then and attack it that way. Should 1quart be sufficient for a double coat on all parts underneath? Also, for the fluid film should I grab a gallon or just a couple spray cans or what? Not sure how the gallon can would hold up... if it stores FOREVER I might just buy that and paint it on as well?? Or are the spray cans best?

Spray cans * easier to apply with the aerosol can than paint brush.

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[xxiaze]

Concluded products as follows: (please advise!)

POR-15 45404 Rust Protection Paint SemiGloss Black Kit + Metal Prep + Degreaser Kit:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XFJBJPZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_0TgpFbCGN01XE

Fluid Film 1 Gallon Can Rust Inhibitor:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NDDCKK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GUgpFbMM5914B

TCP Global Air Rust Proofing and Undercoating Gun with Gauge & Suction Feed Cup:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QR18BT7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_WVgpFb68VPWMG

 

[M-Sport fan]

The stuff DOES NOT COME OFF SKIN so you best wear a set of clothes you don't particularly like and make sure you're covered up as best you can. Using a scouring pad to scrub the shit off is not enjoyable.

I can testify to this, as I have a pair of And 1 shorts I got some of the final coat stuff on, over 10 YEARS AGO, and after a hundred hot washes, this stuff is STILL on them!!
I got some on the driveway at the same time, and it is STILL there after 10 years of weather!!
To get it off my skin, I had to use one of those 3M 'scrounges', and scrub to the point of my skin bleeding to even make a dent in it!!

 

[xxiaze]

I can testify to this, as I have a pair of And 1 shorts I got some of the final coat stuff on, over 10 YEARS AGO, and after a hundred hot washes, this stuff is STILL on them!!
I got some on the driveway at the same time, and it is STILL there after 10 years of weather!!
To get it off my skin, I had to use one of those 3M 'scrounges', and scrub to the point of my skin bleeding to even make a dent in it!!

That sounds awful and incredible all at once!

 

[shouldbeasy]

Righto I’ll grab the 3 pack then and attack it that way. Should 1quart be sufficient for a double coat on all parts underneath? Also, for the fluid film should I grab a gallon or just a couple spray cans or what? Not sure how the gallon can would hold up... if it stores FOREVER I might just buy that and paint it on as well?? Or are the spray cans best?

You can cover a lot with a quart - I recommend buying multiple smaller cans as it's a bit tricky to store the POR-15 as it develops a skin if exposed to air and goes rock hard after.

Fluid Film is a bit tricky - I went all out (3 vehicles of my own plus family) and buy 5G pails of the stuff - I think 1 gallon would do the Fiesta pretty well - I have to re-do my car soon too. Gotta hit the doors where the metal curls over as I just knocked off some rust from that area. If you can afford the Fluid Film air sprayer (and you have a compressor) I would recommend it - just easier than using a brush and more cost effective than the cans. Being able to aerosolize it is best to ensure full coverage.

Can confirm - it stores FOREVER - it's just sheep grease (lanolin).

 

[xxiaze]

You can cover a lot with a quart - I recommend buying multiple smaller cans as it's a bit tricky to store the POR-15 as it develops a skin if exposed to air and goes rock hard after.

Fluid Film is a bit tricky - I went all out (3 vehicles of my own plus family) and buy 5G pails of the stuff - I think 1 gallon would do the Fiesta pretty well - I have to re-do my car soon too. Gotta hit the doors where the metal curls over as I just knocked off some rust from that area. If you can afford the Fluid Film air sprayer (and you have a compressor) I would recommend it - just easier than using a brush and more cost effective than the cans. Being able to aerosolize it is best to ensure full coverage.

Can confirm - it stores FOREVER - it's just sheep grease (lanolin).

Is a quart usable in the amount of time to do the car or do you think it would harden before finished? Sounds like I should just buy a 6 pack of small boys or whatever then. Not sure if a 6er would get the car done though. Those cans seem awfully small

 

[shouldbeasy]

Is a quart usable in the amount of time to do the car or do you think it would harden before finished? Sounds like I should just buy a 6 pack of small boys or whatever then. Not sure if a 6er would get the car done though. Those cans seem awfully small

The trick is sealing the can properly - if you can wield a mallet I bet you can get the can to seal, the problem is that if it isn't 100% sealed, the air reacts with the POR-15 and now you've got a useless can. Just making sure if that happens, it only happens to less than a quart! Buying a big can and having this happens sucks.... the shit isn't cheap.

 

[xxiaze]

The trick is sealing the can properly - if you can wield a mallet I bet you can get the can to seal, the problem is that if it isn't 100% sealed, the air reacts with the POR-15 and now you've got a useless can. Just making sure if that happens, it only happens to less than a quart! Buying a big can and having this happens sucks.... the shit isn't cheap.

Okay for sure, maybe I’ll buy the bigger can and pour it into a usable measured painters cup. Clean the lip and rubber mallet it back on for next use... maybe throw plastic wrap between the lid for a seal?

 

[shouldbeasy]

Okay for sure, maybe I’ll buy the bigger can and pour it into a usable measured painters cup. Clean the lip and rubber mallet it back on for next use... maybe throw plastic wrap between the lid for a seal?

Speed Academy on Youtube tried the plastic wrap and it failed and left them with a ruined can - I've had luck using the POR-15 that slopped on the rim as a sealant and mallet'd the lid down tight and it was fine.

Just a heads up is all - I'm sure you'll be fine if you're aware it can be an issue.