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    Quote Originally Posted by danbfree View Post
    Well said, and I only bring it up for discussion purposes, not to belittle anyone... I'm just kind of surprised the community hasn't moved past using Cobb's stages as the definitive standard when intake and exhaust matter so little while on stock turbo... I mean I consider you to be pretty much "Stage 3" by Cobb's definition, it's not like you are missing out on any power by having a stock exhaust. I just swapped the muffler to a glasspack to go along with Symposer delete and the sound is SO much better, getting to hear the turbo noises under the hood is SO much better, but didn't sound right with only Symposer delete alone, hehe.
    Yeah well don't say it too loud, but after some reading around here, I decided to start running the Cobb stage 3 tune. It made almost no difference and it makes no sense to me, but whatever. Supposedly, the worst that would happen is burn the cat, like I give a fuck. FoST owners around here seems to think it's a really bad idea, but whatever, what are they, mechanic? (actually, they are, hehe)

    I would prefer to have stages on individual parts. The FoST guys have the CP-e RMM with both stage 1 and stage 2. The closest we seems to have to a manufacturer doing multiple "stages" for the RMM is AWR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalter View Post
    Yeah well don't say it too loud, but after some reading around here, I decided to start running the Cobb stage 3 tune. It made almost no difference and it makes no sense to me, but whatever. Supposedly, the worst that would happen is burn the cat, like I give a fuck. FoST owners around here seems to think it's a really bad idea, but whatever, what are they, mechanic? (actually, they are, hehe)

    I would prefer to have stages on individual parts. The FoST guys have the CP-e RMM with both stage 1 and stage 2. The closest we seems to have to a manufacturer doing multiple "stages" for the RMM is AWR.
    Yeah, I hear the higher stages for the OTS tunes might simply heatsoak your IC faster, but the boost is VERY conservative on those anyway, so screw it, why not? Those FoST guys don't know how the FiST is different with an even smaller turbo... I just used Stage 1 as "better than nothing" until I got my Stratified tune in and now VERY happy on Dizzy.
    '17 Magnetic, black wheels/red calipers only option - New Feb, '18. Dizzy V2 e30 with Cobb TC at 3 as daily smooth tune, Stratified v4.00 93 octane with Stratified Optimal TC when e85 not available. Torque Solutions 75a RMM, TB Performance Traction Bar, Mojo Mfg short shift kit, drop-in filter w/cold air shroud cutout. Whoosh silicone Symposer delete and hotside J pipe, 18" Magnaflow glasspack muffler with 9" resonated DC Sports black tip, Powerflex passenger side Street engine mount insert with ARP bolt upgrade, step colder NGK plugs gapped at .0275. Driver side/trans mount insert and Whoosh crossover with turbo inlet on hand waiting to go in.

    FYI - 92 octane e10 pump premium is very close to if not actually 93 octane, start with a 93 tune and datalog from there or you're leaving free power on the table running 91 tunes.

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    I have the Mountune mount and it is for sure noticeable. Performance and feel is awesome, it makes the experience of driving and shifting a bit more enjoyable. At idle especially when the car is first started it is noticeable.

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    I was going to try a torque solutions mount. Budget friendly.

    Considering the car gets spirited blips now and again, I just need a firmer feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerickson88 View Post
    I was going to try a torque solutions mount. Budget friendly.

    Considering the car gets spirited blips now and again, I just need a firmer feel.
    Keep in mind that the big bushing ones like Cobb, Vudu and Torque Solutions will have less vibes but still work well with more area to distribute vibrations. I really like my Torque Solutions with it's 75a while Cobb is only 68a on primary bushing. Don't know about Vudu hardnes, it's not published, but the cheaper AWR will probably have more vibes even at 70a than the big bushing ones, since it uses smaller bushings... just food for thought.
    '17 Magnetic, black wheels/red calipers only option - New Feb, '18. Dizzy V2 e30 with Cobb TC at 3 as daily smooth tune, Stratified v4.00 93 octane with Stratified Optimal TC when e85 not available. Torque Solutions 75a RMM, TB Performance Traction Bar, Mojo Mfg short shift kit, drop-in filter w/cold air shroud cutout. Whoosh silicone Symposer delete and hotside J pipe, 18" Magnaflow glasspack muffler with 9" resonated DC Sports black tip, Powerflex passenger side Street engine mount insert with ARP bolt upgrade, step colder NGK plugs gapped at .0275. Driver side/trans mount insert and Whoosh crossover with turbo inlet on hand waiting to go in.

    FYI - 92 octane e10 pump premium is very close to if not actually 93 octane, start with a 93 tune and datalog from there or you're leaving free power on the table running 91 tunes.

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    I sold my Cobb. It felt soft at times. I only hammer down occasionally, and when I do, it’s a rough beating, but 80% of the time, I’m not too rough lol I’m sure the Cobb would suffice, but they cost more than a new TS in used condition. After first of the year, I plan to get another AP3, and an e30 tune, if I keep the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerickson88 View Post
    I sold my Cobb. It felt soft at times. I only hammer down occasionally, and when I do, it’s a rough beating, but 80% of the time, I’m not too rough lol I’m sure the Cobb would suffice, but they cost more than a new TS in used condition. After first of the year, I plan to get another AP3, and an e30 tune, if I keep the car.
    Yeah, Cobb is probably the softest, I like the Torque Solutions as it puts the power down without a lot of added vibes. It didn't even have to break in at all nor changed over time, just a bit of a lumpy idle when stopped facing uphill, especially until I added the passenger side engine mount insert, which is extremely underrated but does add more vibes than a softer RMM, but not bad at all in street version.
    '17 Magnetic, black wheels/red calipers only option - New Feb, '18. Dizzy V2 e30 with Cobb TC at 3 as daily smooth tune, Stratified v4.00 93 octane with Stratified Optimal TC when e85 not available. Torque Solutions 75a RMM, TB Performance Traction Bar, Mojo Mfg short shift kit, drop-in filter w/cold air shroud cutout. Whoosh silicone Symposer delete and hotside J pipe, 18" Magnaflow glasspack muffler with 9" resonated DC Sports black tip, Powerflex passenger side Street engine mount insert with ARP bolt upgrade, step colder NGK plugs gapped at .0275. Driver side/trans mount insert and Whoosh crossover with turbo inlet on hand waiting to go in.

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    just did a cobb rmm, i am old and hate any vibes so far i got 0 nvh added to the ride i dont feel i will need to up the stock idle either since i literally dont have any vibes even with the ac on i only got vibes once on a real cold day, and once the car was lukewarm it went away. so far i love the difference between the stock and cobb so much that i am selling my stocker i am that confident in the ride quality staying intact with this rmm. for it me was either the cobb rmm or the mountune one they both seem to be the most dd friendly rmm out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danbfree View Post
    Yeah, Cobb is probably the softest, I like the Torque Solutions as it puts the power down without a lot of added vibes. It didn't even have to break in at all nor changed over time, just a bit of a lumpy idle when stopped facing uphill, especially until I added the passenger side engine mount insert, which is extremely underrated but does add more vibes than a softer RMM, but not bad at all in street version.
    Eh, I’m torn. I may do the Cobb or TS. Not sure. Income tax= FMIC, AP3, RMM & e30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerickson88 View Post
    Eh, I’m torn. I may do the Cobb or TS. Not sure. Income tax= FMIC, AP3, RMM & e30.
    So, here is the EXACT difference: Both are nearly exact same design of course, but Torque Solutions is a 75a/75a for the two bushings while Cobb is 68a/80a which in all fairness the softer bushing is the smaller one anyway that won't be affected as much by being softer, but also the Torque Solutions is a good $35 less and is just as good, excellent quality... but again, since I barely noticed any added vibes at all with my TS, I think that 75a is better to prevent that backward flex we are trying to avoid.
    '17 Magnetic, black wheels/red calipers only option - New Feb, '18. Dizzy V2 e30 with Cobb TC at 3 as daily smooth tune, Stratified v4.00 93 octane with Stratified Optimal TC when e85 not available. Torque Solutions 75a RMM, TB Performance Traction Bar, Mojo Mfg short shift kit, drop-in filter w/cold air shroud cutout. Whoosh silicone Symposer delete and hotside J pipe, 18" Magnaflow glasspack muffler with 9" resonated DC Sports black tip, Powerflex passenger side Street engine mount insert with ARP bolt upgrade, step colder NGK plugs gapped at .0275. Driver side/trans mount insert and Whoosh crossover with turbo inlet on hand waiting to go in.

    FYI - 92 octane e10 pump premium is very close to if not actually 93 octane, start with a 93 tune and datalog from there or you're leaving free power on the table running 91 tunes.

 

 
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