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    Quote Originally Posted by jmrtsus View Post
    I am easy to convince, all I want to know is where the mysterious TSB is. I Keep reading about it but all we can find is "so and so said" or "absolutely is one" but we can't seem to find the TSB. I figured someone would actually have a copy or know where to get one. But up to now it still seems to be hiding. Everyone is free to do what they want with their car. Until I see something from Ford I'll stick with what I do know. What I know is I have not seen one, I will not buy a service subscription to attempt to locate a copy. I will not request copies of all TSB's for all years ST's, wait 6-8 weeks for them and pay copy costs/postage from NHTSA.
    Our transmission is used in millions of cars according to Getrag, now Magna PT. It is packaged to fit many makes but the mechanicals are the same. The fill level is probably set by Magna PT as is the fluid specs since they designed it. If it was a safety or reliability issue NHTSA would have forced a recall as required by law. Obviously Ford is NOT telling people to bring their cars in to fix an incorrect fluid level. I have not received an addendum to my manual changing the fluid level. So that should tell people that Ford/NHTSA does not see it as an issue. Neither do I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ford ST View Post
    ....I lost my original trans running the OEM Ford DCTF at 6,000 miles due to output bearing shaft failure. 4,000 miles later on the new trans, I switched to Motul 300. I’m currently sitting at 70k miles with zero issues, and you know how much power I’m putting down, so I’d say you’re pretty safe with the Motul 300. I changed it for some fresh Motul at 50k, and noticed it had sheared down some.

    Side note: When I drained to DCTF to put in the Motul 300, I actually drained 2.2L out of the trans. I called Ford and spoke to the master tech, who told me that when a FiST came in with a bad output bearing, they’re instructed by engineering to overfill the new trans. Apparently, the standard fill spec is a suspect in causing the bearing to fail. In any case, he told me to put at least 2L in, so that’s what I did. 2 full liters of Motul 300 went in, and again later when I put fresh fluid in. Like I said, zero issues all this time later, not even a leaky axle seal. Shifts smooth and quiet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyivan View Post
    Found this
    I believe I copied that from typhoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ford ST View Post
    I believe I copied that from typhoon.

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    Haha, I thought it looked familiar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyivan View Post
    Haha, I thought it looked familiar.
    Actually, I’m the original poster of that. It was my trans that crapped the bed at 7k. As an update, yes, I’m still running Motul 300, and I’m now at 93k miles with zero issues.
    On a side note; the reason that I know the 1.67L fill spec is wrong (besides Ford themselves telling me) is in the transmission fill procedure. It states to fil to 1” below the fill hole. If you were to follow that procedure and then immediately drain the transmission, you’d end up with roughly 2.2L, not 1.67.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisSTrouble View Post
    Actually, I’m the original poster of that. It was my trans that crapped the bed at 7k. As an update, yes, I’m still running Motul 300, and I’m now at 93k miles with zero issues.
    On a side note; the reason that I know the 1.67L fill spec is wrong (besides Ford themselves telling me) is in the transmission fill procedure. It states to fil to 1” below the fill hole. If you were to follow that procedure and then immediately drain the transmission, you’d end up with roughly 2.2L, not 1.67.
    Totally!

    I'm running a hair over 2L.
    Changed out the FF at 7,500 miles.

    A few things:

    I had a hard time measuring that 1 inch below fill hole. Do you measure at a 90 degree angle or straight down???
    Also, getting everything level was tricky.
    In the end, I just put 2 liters in and walked away.

    I went with the stock stuff, btw. I plan on doing the ravenol before summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyivan View Post
    Totally!

    I'm running a hair over 2L.
    Changed out the FF at 7,500 miles.

    A few things:

    I had a hard time measuring that 1 inch below fill hole. Do you measure at a 90 degree angle or straight down???
    Also, getting everything level was tricky.
    In the end, I just put 2 liters in and walked away.

    I went with the stock stuff, btw. I plan on doing the ravenol before summer.
    The procedure was meant to be used by a technician, with the car level on a lift. As for what you can use to check 1”, you could use almost anything. I believe one guy bent some weedeater line at a 90 angle and trimmed one end to 1”, then used it as a dipstick of sorts, filling and checking until it showed up on the end of the line. In the end, when you fill to 1” below the fill hole, you’ll get roughly 2.2L. As for me, I just pour in 2L and call it good, and I’ve had no issues.
    My personal opinion is that it’s less important about what you use, whether it’s stock, Motul, Ravenol, etc; and more important to use the proper amount of it.

    As an aside, if your trans has already started to whine, no amount of fluid or brand change will save you. The damage has already been done, and it’s just a matter of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisSTrouble View Post
    The procedure was meant to be used by a technician, with the car level on a lift. As for what you can use to check 1”, you could use almost anything. I believe one guy bent some weedeater line at a 90 angle and trimmed one end to 1”, then used it as a dipstick of sorts, filling and checking until it showed up on the end of the line. In the end, when you fill to 1” below the fill hole, you’ll get roughly 2.2L. As for me, I just pour in 2L and call it good, and I’ve had no issues.
    My personal opinion is that it’s less important about what you use, whether it’s stock, Motul, Ravenol, etc; and more important to use the proper amount of it.

    As an aside, if your trans has already started to whine, no amount of fluid or brand change will save you. The damage has already been done, and it’s just a matter of time.
    Thankfully I did not have any noise.
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    Does anyone know if you fill it to the "top" aka have it drip out, much much do you have to pull back out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKaWing View Post
    Does anyone know if you fill it to the "top" aka have it drip out, much much do you have to pull back out?
    Just fill it with 2 Qts. Of the fluid of your choice....Then Call it a day....its not a Tiptronic transmission from Porsche....then let it buck!

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