Hello,I dont own an ST but have a question. I do have a 2016 SE and was looking for an ST but unfortunately I had to have my left leg amputated in january and can not drive a manual now. I was wondering if anybody did an automatic swap or if an SE engine could be swapped into my SE...is it possible or not?
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I haven't seen anything to indicate an ST swap with an auto in a sedan has been done before. There have been at least a few ST swapped sedans, but the whole drivetrain. I am unsure if any of the factory autos offered in the Fiesta would bolt up to the 1.6 or not.
I believe there was a FWD only escape with the 1.6 ecoboost and an auto transmission in the past, so the ECU/TCU combo likely exists, but it is unknown if that transmission will fit in the Fiesta chassis. Even if it would fit, I have my doubts that it would be a simple swap with the chassis and suspension differences between the two. (maybe even an auto 1.6 Fusion?)
If you are looking for more of an ST like experience, components like suspension, brakes, chassis bracing, wheels, etc. are essentially bolt-on (whether factory or aftermarket).
Ultimately, and ST sedan swap is a major undertaking, even with the full drive train which is bolt-on-ish if you have a donor car with the mechanical parts and electronics.
Given enough time and money anything is possible, but its up to you to decide if its worth it.
I believe there was a FWD only escape with the 1.6 ecoboost and an auto transmission in the past, so the ECU/TCU combo likely exists, but it is unknown if that transmission will fit in the Fiesta chassis. Even if it would fit, I have my doubts that it would be a simple swap with the chassis and suspension differences between the two. (maybe even an auto 1.6 Fusion?)
If you are looking for more of an ST like experience, components like suspension, brakes, chassis bracing, wheels, etc. are essentially bolt-on (whether factory or aftermarket).
Ultimately, and ST sedan swap is a major undertaking, even with the full drive train which is bolt-on-ish if you have a donor car with the mechanical parts and electronics.
Given enough time and money anything is possible, but its up to you to decide if its worth it.
The 2016 Escape SE 2WD was available with the 1.6 ecoboost and a 6 speed automatic. The engine is the same as the Fiesta ST. The question is whether the transmission fits, as arlisscm mentioned. I have never heard of anyone doing the transmission swap though many have replaced their engines with scrapyard Escape engines.
I just searched the opposite question, and the swap has been done from the automatic to a manual (to get over the problems with the DPS6). It requires reprogramming the ECU and stuff. Not considered easy for that reason.
Therefore, the automatic should be able to be swapped in where the manual transmission was.
Therefore, the automatic should be able to be swapped in where the manual transmission was.
My guess is this would be way too expensive to really consider. I remember back when I owned a 2007 Charger SRT8 (auto only) and then the Challenger SRT8 6-speed was released the following year. People wanted to do the swap to have a 6-speed Charger SRT8 but even after about a year in development by high end customizers, they gave up because the costs were going to be crazy high due to the electronics. We’re talking *VERY* expensive. Its been nearly 20 years, but I think people were looking at $100K or something nuts because *all* of the electronics and Canbus stuff.
I’m disabled myself, so I get that being a “car guy” and having physical limitations are challenging, but I’d probably recommend you look at cars that are sporty and offer a DSG like a GTI or something along those lines. Sadly I’m guessing the FiST may be my last 6-speed car myself. Good luck and hopefully you can find the car of your dreams.
I’m disabled myself, so I get that being a “car guy” and having physical limitations are challenging, but I’d probably recommend you look at cars that are sporty and offer a DSG like a GTI or something along those lines. Sadly I’m guessing the FiST may be my last 6-speed car myself. Good luck and hopefully you can find the car of your dreams.
Dual clutch gearboxes are nothing like a manual or an automatic. Functionally and fuel economy they have advantages, but mechanically they’re far more complicated than both. Basically all the bad things about two Siamese manual 3-speed transmissions with the hydraulics and clutches of an automatic all mashed into a gearbox
Another option might be to contact Quaife about their sequential transmission. I am pretty sure I’ve seen this in several extreme FiST YouTube videos, but this may be incorrect. I do believe this will cost over $10K though, but I’m pretty fuzzy on the details. I briefly researched it back when I had my FoRS until I started to see the costs.
https://www.quaife.co.uk/quaife-products/motorsport-gearboxes/
edit: I think this is a “true sequential“ with a clutch (like the OG Porsche 962) after reading more, so this isn’t a good option unless that’s wrong.
https://www.quaife.co.uk/quaife-products/motorsport-gearboxes/
edit: I think this is a “true sequential“ with a clutch (like the OG Porsche 962) after reading more, so this isn’t a good option unless that’s wrong.
Yes, the Quaife, Sadev, and all of the rest that could possibly be fitted to this car and engine all require the clutch to start off in first.
Then they require a big $$$$ total rebuild every given maintenance period which yes, could be possibly longer for street use, but maybe not if used in stop and go, 'parking lot' type traffic.
Then they require a big $$$$ total rebuild every given maintenance period which yes, could be possibly longer for street use, but maybe not if used in stop and go, 'parking lot' type traffic.
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