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The whoosh motorsports Single Port Auxiliary Fuel Kit

Once you've installed a hybrid or larger turbocharger on your Fiesta ST 1.6L, the stock DI fuel system quickly starves for fuel at approx 300whp. The HPFP (high pressure fuel pump) and DI injectors simply can not handle the fuel demand to produce more power

The whoosh aux fuel kit will provide enough additional fuel to safely increase power by 100 crank HP or a total of 350-375whp (combined power total with the stock DI system and the whoosh aux kit) Power increase figures are custom tune and fuel dependent

This is made possible by adding a port fuel injector / injection plate that installs between the throttle body and intake manifold. The injector is controlled by the included split second controller in tandem with a custom tune on your COBB Accessport. Please contact us directly with any questions related to the installation or tuning of this product

In addition to the extra power, the whoosh aux fuel kit will help keep your intake valves clean and free of excessive carbon buildup

Key Features:

  • injector plate CNC machined from high quality aluminum
  • hard anodized Black finish
  • DeatschWerks injector (65 lb/hr)
  • Fully assembled E85 compatible Aeromotive fuel line and fittings
  • Split Second injector controller with serial cable adapter included
  • all necessary hardware for an easy installation
  • optional VR true plug-and-play harness


 


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So, for this single port setup, how much easier of an install is it to buy the plug and play harness? As-is, apples to apples, is this comparable to what all is included with the Stratified kit? The plug n play harness is reasonably priced but comes with all the stuff for 4 port and this single port won't need all that stuff, any chance you can offer a single port version of the harness kit? :)
 


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Can this be used simply to keep the intake valves clean? As can I install it in a completely stock engine with the factory tune and get fuel added at the throttle body and trust the ECM to compensate by not pushing as much fuel thru the direct injection system?
 


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Can this be used simply to keep the intake valves clean? As can I install it in a completely stock engine with the factory tune and get fuel added at the throttle body and trust the ECM to compensate by not pushing as much fuel thru the direct injection system?

Why spend the money just for intake valve cleaning. Unless you are planning on going to a bigger turbo in the future, the aux fuel would be a waste of money. Especially buying a single port when in the future you need to go to 4 port. Also you would have to have a custom tune and the aux fuel tune is usually in addition to the custom tune, so that's another cost.

Just because there is a fuel spray before the valves does not mean that those injector/injectors are constantly spraying fuel. Those injectors only come into play when you go a heavy fuel demand situation. If you only go into WOT from time to time, the injectors aren't really coming into play that much.


Just go get some CRC intake valve cleaner and inject it at the port located just below the throttle body. Easy to get to and all you would need to do is get a cap that will fit over the port and drill a small hole the size of the spray straw to fit the straw into. No muss no fuss and a lot cheaper.
 


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Can this be used simply to keep the intake valves clean? As can I install it in a completely stock engine with the factory tune and get fuel added at the throttle body and trust the ECM to compensate by not pushing as much fuel thru the direct injection system?
No. I would recommend a small spray of meth for this application.
 


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Ford has added supplemental fuel injection on the intake ports on the Coyote V8 specifically to insure the intake valves are kept clean. I expect the new 3 cylinder Fiesta ST in Europe also has supplemental injection for valve cleaning. The ONLY impediment to one of these single port systems being used to do the same thing is that those making these systems don't think they could sell them for this specific application. IMO failing to offer support for that application is a mistake that is costing them sales.

Because some of us don't feel a need for more power. However that doesn't mean we don't care about our cars any less and we may actually wish to keep our cars running well for 10 or even 20 years.
 


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Ford has added supplemental fuel injection on the intake ports on the Coyote V8 specifically to insure the intake valves are kept clean. I expect the new 3 cylinder Fiesta ST in Europe also has supplemental injection for valve cleaning. The ONLY impediment to one of these single port systems being used to do the same thing is that those making these systems don't think they could sell them for this specific application. IMO failing to offer support for that application is a mistake that is costing them sales.

Because some of us don't feel a need for more power. However that doesn't mean we don't care about our cars any less and we may actually wish to keep our cars running well for 10 or even 20 years.
Heck yes the new 1.5 has both and because of that it has been tuned like crazy, something like 260whp... But if an engine is not designed for it from the get go, then you are far better off with WMI. Aux fuel in these cases is specifically for maintaining enough fuel at higher power levels. Also agree up above, there is actually CRI direct injection cleaner you can inject through the throttle body, but also drive this car nice and hard, take road trips and get on boost a lot that closes off the PCV and keeps the valves clean, or even get a Walnut shell blasting every 120k if you want. Guy who has about 300k on his '17 has no dirty valve issue driving hundreds of miles round trip delivering live organs and other critical medical supplies even with no catch cans, so driving it clean can be done, not a car to be babied!

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Heck yes the new 1.5 has both and because of that it has been tuned like crazy, something like 260whp... But if an engine is not designed for it from the get go, then you are far better off with WMI. Aux fuel in these cases is specifically for maintaining enough fuel at higher power levels. Also agree up above, there is actually CRI direct injection cleaner you can inject through the throttle body, but also drive this car nice and hard, take road trips and get on boost a lot that closes off the PCV and keeps the valves clean, or even get a Walnut shell blasting every 120k if you want. Guy who has about 300k on his '17 has no dirty valve issue driving hundreds of miles round trip delivering live organs and other critical medical supplies even with no catch cans, so driving it clean can be done, not a car to be babied!

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The intake valves aren't being cleaned by any solvents - when you ONLY have direct injection then coking of the intake valves is common, Ford (and others) have added port injection for just this reason.

Savagegeese has a quality video on the intake valve issues:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrLNDgrIw3U

Also EngineeringExplained:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW0wCl-O7oY
 


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The intake valves aren't being cleaned by any solvents - when you ONLY have direct injection then coking of the intake valves is common, Ford (and others) have added port injection for just this reason.

Savagegeese has a quality video on the intake valve issues:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrLNDgrIw3U

Also EngineeringExplained:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW0wCl-O7oY
I know how DI works, if you bothered to read my posts above it you see I mention the dual injection used now and yes, it's nice for peace of mind but carbon has not been an issue on FiST motors so I see it more for the tuning potential. I also know the CRC GDI valve cleaner and also a service at Valvoline that's available too that absolutely do help, it's not shit just dumped into the tank, it's actually fed through the TB where it absolutely washes the intake valves... Do they remove 100%? Fuck no, but a significant amount is removed so maybe try researching that like I did instead of trying to tell people they're wrong, thanks! Besides, if you really knew what's up, then you'd know we don't have an '07 first gen Mini motor, these are 2nd gen DI with far more complex and advanced ECU's with timing tricks and updated PCV with dual internal baffles that significantly reduces carbon buildup... and again, I'm not naming names of people not on here, but this guy, famous on the FB groups has 300k with no catch cans and no carbon issues, period, so find something else to worry about to join FB with a fake name just for the groups, I learn just as much if not more on those than here anyway.
 


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I know how DI works, if you bothered to read my posts above it you see I mention the dual injection used now and yes, it's nice for peace of mind but carbon has not been an issue on FiST motors so I see it more for the tuning potential. I also know the CRC GDI valve cleaner and also a service at Valvoline that's available too that absolutely do help, it's not shit just dumped into the tank, it's actually fed through the TB where it absolutely washes the intake valves... Do they remove 100%? Fuck no, but a significant amount is removed so maybe try researching that like I did instead of trying to tell people they're wrong, thanks! Besides, if you really knew what's up, then you'd know we don't have an '07 first gen Mini motor, these are 2nd gen DI with far more complex and advanced ECU's with timing tricks and updated PCV with dual internal baffles that significantly reduces carbon buildup... and again, I'm not naming names of people not on here, but this guy, famous on the FB groups has 300k with no catch cans and no carbon issues, period, so find something else to worry about to join FB with a fake name just for the groups, I learn just as much if not more on those than here anyway.
You speak in generalities but don't provide any actual information or reference material - WHO are these people not having coking issues with their 1.6l Ecoboost? Go ahead, name names - if they're on a 300K facebook group they obviously don't care about their internet anonymity.

Where are the studies? You want to convince people? Back up what you say! I'm soooooo sorry I had the audacity to not believe everything I read by some random poster on a random internet forum.

You realize that the intake valves don't seal 100%? Catch cans not 100% effective? It's the fact that the fuel is sprayed in to the combustion chamber and not used as a aerosolized solvent in port injection is the reason most companies have reverted to dual injector set ups - such as the new Audi RS3. Mother fucker comes with 10 injectors.

Valvoline article stating benefits of dual injection - https://team.valvoline.com/diy/truth-behind-carbon-buildup
'The company says that the dual system provides power, efficiency, and drivability gains. However, it will also have the added benefit of shooting gasoline into the intake ports when the engine is running in port injection mode, which should solve the problem of oil baking onto the valve stems. '

COBB article with a Mazdaspeed3 engine - https://cobbtuning.atlassian.net/wi.../Direct+Injection+Vehicles+and+Carbon+Buildup
'Since Direct Injection motors have the fuel being injected directly into the cylinder, fuel doesn’t flow over the vehicles valves. This means that deposits can settle on the back of the valves and over time will build up causing issues with the valves being able to seal properly, turbulent the air coming into the cylinder, in turn, causing issues with air/fuel ratios, rough idling, cold start issues, and misfires if the carbon buildup is bad enough. This is a service that requires you to remove the intake manifold to gain access to the intake valves for cleaning. Depending on the vehicle and driving conditions the car could require carbon cleaning every 30k-60k miles. '


Regarding facebook, I never had an account and never will - I realized the toxicity of the environment from the beginning. You need to spend less time on there and more time learning to identify questionable sources of information.
 


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You speak in generalities but don't provide any actual information or reference material - WHO are these people not having coking issues with their 1.6l Ecoboost? Go ahead, name names - if they're on a 300K facebook group they obviously don't care about their internet anonymity.

Where are the studies? You want to convince people? Back up what you say! I'm soooooo sorry I had the audacity to not believe everything I read by some random poster on a random internet forum.

You realize that the intake valves don't seal 100%? Catch cans not 100% effective? It's the fact that the fuel is sprayed in to the combustion chamber and not used as a aerosolized solvent in port injection is the reason most companies have reverted to dual injector set ups - such as the new Audi RS3. Mother fucker comes with 10 injectors.

Valvoline article stating benefits of dual injection - https://team.valvoline.com/diy/truth-behind-carbon-buildup
'The company says that the dual system provides power, efficiency, and drivability gains. However, it will also have the added benefit of shooting gasoline into the intake ports when the engine is running in port injection mode, which should solve the problem of oil baking onto the valve stems. '

COBB article with a Mazdaspeed3 engine - https://cobbtuning.atlassian.net/wi.../Direct+Injection+Vehicles+and+Carbon+Buildup
'Since Direct Injection motors have the fuel being injected directly into the cylinder, fuel doesn’t flow over the vehicles valves. This means that deposits can settle on the back of the valves and over time will build up causing issues with the valves being able to seal properly, turbulent the air coming into the cylinder, in turn, causing issues with air/fuel ratios, rough idling, cold start issues, and misfires if the carbon buildup is bad enough. This is a service that requires you to remove the intake manifold to gain access to the intake valves for cleaning. Depending on the vehicle and driving conditions the car could require carbon cleaning every 30k-60k miles. '


Regarding facebook, I never had an account and never will - I realized the toxicity of the environment from the beginning. You need to spend less time on there and more time learning to identify questionable sources of information.
Well, I guess I just don't care... if you don't care to believe my very simple information, it's not rocket science and I have no reason to lie, then whatever... But I'm not talking about grandma FB, we're talking specific hobby groups with in-depth knowledge sharing, but the guy's name is Shane Somers, and again all over the FB groups, but you ask for names like I'm claiming I know who shot Kennedy, Jesus and you think FB is toxic? Wow... and what "questionable sources of information"/ what is the big claim you are doubting so much? I've been researching this shit got 2 years, maybe you need to read more yourself instead of just doubting everything... So, not even sure where the disconnect is, dual injection absolutely helps in both keeping intake valves clean, of course... but not driving in stop and go all day, getting out on the freeway and opening it up does a lot to drive it clean, mechanics will say the same thing, pull the head on one that's that's been babied for 60k vs. one that has been driven hard, the one driven hard ( just getting on boost daily, keeping RPM's up on road trips) absolutely does help keep this engine clean... Have you even seen the Stratified tech paper on this? Did you even know about the CRC GDI cleaner and Valvoline EasyGDI? Well, I'll at least leave you the Stratified link HERE
 


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Well, I guess I just don't care... if you don't care to believe my very simple information, it's not rocket science and I have no reason to lie, then whatever... But I'm not talking about grandma FB, we're talking specific hobby groups with in-depth knowledge sharing, but the guy's name is Shane Somers, and again all over the FB groups, but you ask for names like I'm claiming I know who shot Kennedy, Jesus and you think FB is toxic? Wow... and what "questionable sources of information"/ what is the big claim you are doubting so much? I've been researching this shit got 2 years, maybe you need to read more yourself instead of just doubting everything... So, not even sure where the disconnect is, dual injection absolutely helps in both keeping intake valves clean, of course... but not driving in stop and go all day, getting out on the freeway and opening it up does a lot to drive it clean, mechanics will say the same thing, pull the head on one that's that's been babied for 60k vs. one that has been driven hard, the one driven hard ( just getting on boost daily, keeping RPM's up on road trips) absolutely does help keep this engine clean... Have you even seen the Stratified tech paper on this? Did you even know about the CRC GDI cleaner and Valvoline EasyGDI? Well, I'll at least leave you the Stratified link HERE
So you provide a document regarding the efficacy of catch cans when discussing the merits of having port injectors as a solvent for intake valve cleaning? Yes, I realize that they help REDUCE the amount of deposits, they're not CLEANING the valves of the problem. Thanks, I haven't read that link in a bit, good refresher.

Go ahead and think your two years (TWO YEARS!!) of research means you're the go to source of information and know better than the engineers who do this on the regular (maybe even longer than two years!!!) and yes, I will continue to doubt EVERYTHING I read on the internet because it's way to easy to get on a computer and spout some bullshit. Facebook is proof of that.

Yes, I know about additional cleaning products - I'm not trying to use a product every 30,000 miles to (hopefully) clean the valves - I'll rely on somewhat proven technology (port injection) for doing that job.

Stay home, stay safe - I don't think you have anything else to add to this discussion. If you wish to provide a concise list of questions I'll be happy to answer - your wall of text isn't the easiest to quote.
 


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