The Fiesta is Gone!

[M-Sport fan]

Yeah the mt82 is a garbage Chinese gearbox. Even at stock power they are known to bend shift forks and just eat themselves. They just don't feel great either. The gt350 has an amazing tremic box. Tr6060 swaps are very common for thr gts

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As good as the box in the GT350 is, I probably would still do a beefed-up variant of a TR6060 swap in one IF I could afford one to begin with. LOL

 

[M-Sport fan]

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For highway driving I would agree, the fist is pretty anemic especially with a stock turbo. Around town the fist is amazing tho. My last car was a 500whp gto. Fun to do pulls but overall driving which mine is 90% around town, is way more fun in the fist. S550s are pretty sweet handling cars but I still love light nimble cars around town. Turbo upgrade really changes the fist.

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Was the Aussie goat forced induction, or a fully built, NA LSx at that power level?

Work to it done at East Coast Supercharging, or somewhere else/yourself?

 

[M-Sport fan]

They're still a car company, outside of the states.

...and at least they offer ONE decent car, for now.

 

[theothersawyer]

Nice! I have a 2016 GT Performance Pack! People complain about the 6-speed, but I've never had any issues with it.

 

[slopoke]

I've ordered the Whipple Stage II supercharger, it's got a 5 to 6 week lead time. I'll install it and the TSS oil pump and timing chain gear in June when I'm on vacation. In two weeks the new wheels, 275/19 front 305/19 front tires, suspension items and a Borla exhaust go in. I'm on vacation that week too.

 

[Ford ST]

I don't think I will ever have the nerves to open up a new engine like that.

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[wetwea33]

I don't think I will ever have the nerves to open up a new engine like that.

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It's really not opening up the engine it's pretty simple. The oil pump gear and the timing chains are pretty routine on cayotes. The supercharger is essentially bolt on.

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[Ford ST]

It's really not opening up the engine it's pretty simple. The oil pump gear and the timing chains are pretty routine on cayotes. The supercharger is essentially bolt on.

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The last timing chain I did was on a Chrysler 2.7 it was miserable.
If that's a common thing that is reason 500 why I'm not buying another Ford product.
Also no desire to piss the warranty away immediately. I don't see how you could ever cover that up if something went wrong. I'm very financially conservative y'all have fun with that I'm boring.

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[jmrtsus]

The Fiesta ST is a nice counterpoint to a Mustang. I will never sell either of them.

I'm with you, we have both and love each of them, and truth is the GT will run rings around the FiST in the twisties easily. But I prefer the FiST as my DD. The GT is the travel/weekend car. 460 Hp is very addictive, we call it her "rumble mobile", nothing like the sound of a Coyote in the sport mode echoing off the mountains and valleys of E TN and W NC. This is my first IRS Mustang and a real charmer in the curves. Unbelievable acceleration, stopping, handling and all the options to make it my wife's DD, does her nails and shaves her legs at 140 mph. The 10 speed is a nice, fast up shifting transmission and a requirement for my wife after knee surgery. But the paddle shift forces you to be at least 1.5 seconds ahead of the car it is so slow to shift down. Once I got used to the delay it did give you manual like fun. After 50 years the Mustang is a proper sports car and the best selling one in the world. I challenged my wife to drive one and bet she would buy it.......I won and have a Mustang play toy now! And for the $$ it is a steal in a performance car. I love our complementary trio of FiST, GT/CS and an old Ranger. The blue oval still rules at my house and as soon as my wife wins the lottery I'll go shopping for a GT40 in Gulf livery! If not I'll be happy with the two cars that best meets our needs and are just plain fun to drive.

 

[wetwea33]

I'm with you, we have both and love each of them, and truth is the GT will run rings around the FiST in the twisties easily. But I prefer the FiST as my DD. The GT is the travel/weekend car. 460 Hp is very addictive, we call it her "rumble mobile", nothing like the sound of a Coyote in the sport mode echoing off the mountains and valleys of E TN and W NC. This is my first IRS Mustang and a real charmer in the curves. Unbelievable acceleration, stopping, handling and all the options to make it my wife's DD, does her nails and shaves her legs at 140 mph. The 10 speed is a nice, fast up shifting transmission and a requirement for my wife after knee surgery. But the paddle shift forces you to be at least 1.5 seconds ahead of the car it is so slow to shift down. Once I got used to the delay it did give you manual like fun. After 50 years the Mustang is a proper sports car and the best selling one in the world. I challenged my wife to drive one and bet she would buy it.......I won and have a Mustang play toy now! And for the $$ it is a steal in a performance car. I love our complementary trio of FiST, GT/CS and an old Ranger. The blue oval still rules at my house and as soon as my wife wins the lottery I'll go shopping for a GT40 in Gulf livery! If not I'll be happy with the two cars that best meets our needs and are just plain fun to drive.

Don't have to get use to the delay. Get the 10spewd tuned, it will be a night in day difference. The American car makers haven't got the paddle response down like Porsche or vw or the zf8 speed cars.

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[jmrtsus]

Don't have to get use to the delay. Get the 10spewd tuned, it will be a night in day difference. The American car makers haven't got the paddle response down like Porsche or vw or the zf8 speed cars.

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With the cost of replacement I'll stay stock, will not be the go to car for mountain roads. Just some occasional fun on vacations. She beat me on the Tail of the Dragon with it in sport+ mode and no paddles and will probably never use them.

 

[slopoke]

Just a preview of what I will be installing in June, during my vacation, or if I get laid off at work.

 

[Ford ST]

Nice that is pretty cool.

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[jmrtsus]

Just a preview of what I will be installing in June, during my vacation, or if I get laid off at work.


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Why the Whipple over the Ford Performance? I know almost zip about either other than warranty coverage for the Ford. And the fact both are 50 state compliant makes me happy. Just curious as I doubt i'll be doing a supercharger on my wife's car. I know even less about the Whipple than the Ford performance offerings. I do know I had zero dealer problems with my MP-215 purchased from Ford Performance for over 40k miles on my Fist so far. So warranty friendly is important to me especially on the coyote engine. I see Whipple offers to sell a warranty on the power train. You chose the Whipple, is it more complete, easier install, better quality unit or lower price? I'm sure you did lots of research and for sure know lots more than I do about it! Educate a curious guy, thanks! I too love the FiST in town but the GT is the better hwy cruiser and vacation machine. And ultimately a better sports car as it should be at twice the cost! Wrench on!

 

[slopoke]

Why the Whipple over the Ford Performance? I know almost zip about either other than warranty coverage for the Ford. And the fact both are 50 state compliant makes me happy. Just curious as I doubt i'll be doing a supercharger on my wife's car. I know even less about the Whipple than the Ford performance offerings. I do know I had zero dealer problems with my MP-215 purchased from Ford Performance for over 40k miles on my Fist so far. So warranty friendly is important to me especially on the coyote engine. I see Whipple offers to sell a warranty on the power train. You chose the Whipple, is it more complete, easier install, better quality unit or lower price? I'm sure you did lots of research and for sure know lots more than I do about it! Educate a curious guy, thanks! I too love the FiST in town but the GT is the better hwy cruiser and vacation machine. And ultimately a better sports car as it should be at twice the cost! Wrench on!

The Whipple is actually more expensive than the Ford Performance/Roush superchargers. I went with the Whipple because of the larger intercooler. People with the Roush unit have complained about heat soak and power dropping off with back to back pulls because of the higher supercharger outlet temps compared to Whipple, VMP and Edelbrock.. Roush has upgraded the low temp radiator to help this problem, but with the smaller intercooler on the supercharger unit, it still may have heat issues, with the warmer weather ahead, we'll find out if the larger LTR helps and how much. The intercooler on the Whipple is almost twice the size of the Ford/Roush intercooler. Another reason is that there is more H.P potential with the Whipple over the Ford/Roush unit.

The Whipple stage one has an option for a warranty, I got the stage 2 which does not. The Ford/Roush unit has a warranty only if installed by an ASE certified mechanic. I'm doing a self install which would not qualify for a warranty. I could get a friend that's ASE certified to sign the paperwork, but that's bad Karma to me.

The Ford/Roush unit requires grinding down and drilling/tapping a boss on the cam chain cover. The Whipple does not require any drilling, grinding, tapping of any engine component.
If you haven't read about it, the Coyote engine has an issue with the oil pump gears breaking and engine getting damaged because of loss of oil pressure due to the breakage of the gears. I'm changing the oil pump gears and the timing chain gear in conjunction with the supercharger installation. Some say that it's not needed, some say it's good insurance to do the gears. Changing the gears only takes about a half a day at a leisurely pace, I think it's good peace of mind to

You might want to check out the links below. First is to some complaints of the Roush/ Ford performance unit and the other two are regarding the oil pump gears.

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/th...he-the-roush-kit.127474/page-241#post-2840745

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGOefZv7pgs

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkoKQT2197Q

 

[jmrtsus]

The Whipple is actually more expensive than the Ford Performance/Roush superchargers. I went with the Whipple because of the larger intercooler. People with the Roush unit have complained about heat soak and power dropping off with back to back pulls because of the higher supercharger outlet temps compared to Whipple, VMP and Edelbrock.. Roush has upgraded the low temp radiator to help this problem, but with the smaller intercooler on the supercharger unit, it still may have heat issues, with the warmer weather ahead, we'll find out if the larger LTR helps and how much. The intercooler on the Whipple is almost twice the size of the Ford/Roush intercooler. Another reason is that there is more H.P potential with the Whipple over the Ford/Roush unit.

The Whipple stage one has an option for a warranty, I got the stage 2 which does not. The Ford/Roush unit has a warranty only if installed by an ASE certified mechanic. I'm doing a self install which would not qualify for a warranty. I could get a friend that's ASE certified to sign the paperwork, but that's bad Karma to me.

The Ford/Roush unit requires grinding down and drilling/tapping a boss on the cam chain cover. The Whipple does not require any drilling, grinding, tapping of any engine component.
If you haven't read about it, the Coyote engine has an issue with the oil pump gears breaking and engine getting damaged because of loss of oil pressure due to the breakage of the gears. I'm changing the oil pump gears and the timing chain gear in conjunction with the supercharger installation. Some say that it's not needed, some say it's good insurance to do the gears. Changing the gears only takes about a half a day at a leisurely pace, I think it's good peace of mind to

You might want to check out the links below. First is to some complaints of the Roush/ Ford performance unit and the other two are regarding the oil pump gears.

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/th...he-the-roush-kit.127474/page-241#post-2840745

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGOefZv7pgs

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkoKQT2197Q

Thanks, I knew there had to be good reasons! As to ASE on the install cost me a case of beer for an ASE mechanic to check out and sign off on my MP-215. Not sure I would do the supercharger install myself. We are into mountain roads and 460 HP is plenty for that, the stock GT is a great twisties car as is. The FiST is more fun and easy to drive but my wife just walks away from it with about equal handling but the ability to power out of the curves is awesome in her GT/CS. I consider myself to be a lucky man in having my 2 favorite cars. My wife loves to cruise wearing a T-shirt that says, "Yes it's fast, no you can't drive it!" LOL

 

[GreenenvyFiST]

Your 5.0 will be a monster with that whipple! Good choice. Hopefully you can put the power down on the street without spinning like crazy.👌👍

 

[slopoke]

Your 5.0 will be a monster with that whipple! Good choice. Hopefully you can put the power down on the street without spinning like crazy.👌👍

I've got a set of staggered Shelby CS5 wheels that will go on after all of the Corona Virus stuff settles down. 305 35 19 Michelin Pilot Sport tires are going on the back.

 

[wetwea33]

I've got a set of staggered Shelby CS5 wheels that will go on after all of the Corona Virus stuff settles down. 305 35 19 Michelin Pilot Sport tires are going on the back.

That wheel and tire combo ain't gonna like all that torque lol. I would have opted for a drag pack setup with probably a radial in the back for the warmer months.

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[DoomsdayMelody]

I'm with you, we have both and love each of them, and truth is the GT will run rings around the FiST in the twisties easily. But I prefer the FiST as my DD. The GT is the travel/weekend car. 460 Hp is very addictive, we call it her "rumble mobile", nothing like the sound of a Coyote in the sport mode echoing off the mountains and valleys of E TN and W NC. This is my first IRS Mustang and a real charmer in the curves. Unbelievable acceleration, stopping, handling and all the options to make it my wife's DD, does her nails and shaves her legs at 140 mph. The 10 speed is a nice, fast up shifting transmission and a requirement for my wife after knee surgery. But the paddle shift forces you to be at least 1.5 seconds ahead of the car it is so slow to shift down. Once I got used to the delay it did give you manual like fun. After 50 years the Mustang is a proper sports car and the best selling one in the world. I challenged my wife to drive one and bet she would buy it.......I won and have a Mustang play toy now! And for the $$ it is a steal in a performance car. I love our complementary trio of FiST, GT/CS and an old Ranger. The blue oval still rules at my house and as soon as my wife wins the lottery I'll go shopping for a GT40 in Gulf livery! If not I'll be happy with the two cars that best meets our needs and are just plain fun to drive.

One and a half seconds for a downshift? I mean I’m not the best gear rower in the world but that would absolutely kill the driving experience for me. Kind of a shame, honestly, it wouldn’t be terribly difficult to get the ECU and TCU to get a rev matched downshift, especially with all the wiggle room that torque converter gives you in matching engine and wheel speeds. Then again I suppose that’s Ford for you, another example of a less than fully thought out automatic transmission.


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