2016 Time Attack/TT Fiesta

[EscortSportage]

Recently picked up a 16 ST, registered it the next day, went to NJMP and did a trackday as a shakedown. Already ordered a bunch of suspension parts, bushings, chassis braces and some fun stuff. RPF1 wheels on the way, autopower roll bar, bucket seat, its going to be a proper track toy but street driven, full interior (street class)

(I used to track a fully built foxbody mustang, gutted, cages, gen 2 coyote, etc etc, now im staying more budget friendly)

(trying to upload pictures but the forum keeps erroring out)

so results from my shakedown

1. The car desperately needs front negative camber
2. Bucket seat is a must, i was sliding all over the place and im only on a set of 340 treadwear tires
3. Brake pads and rotors are getting replaced. Stoptech rotors are on the way, stoptect SS braided hoses and Hawk HP Plus pads
4. Front brake cooling is a must, after a few fun laps the front brakes were not happy and this was after we flushed the fluid with Motul 600.
5. Outside temp was 55-60 so the car ran cool but im going to swap to an aluminum radiator and a cobb intercooler before the summer comes.
6. Another note on cooling I noticed the car has a stock oil cooler, im going to run a duct to the aluminum housing to aid in keeping the oil cooler

Cheers

 

[Stubborn Approach]

Not only does it need a ton more negative front camber, but it needs a front contact patch that x8” wheels simply cannot supply.

Those Hawk HP+ pads aren’t going to cut it even with ducting. Hawk DTC60s are more up to the task but also more like a light switch, very little modulation and cant stand up to the TVS/ESC systems applying the brakes everywhere for a full session. Glocs have more modulation at that heat range & have no problem with the balljoint/caliper boot melting heat the brakes still put out with those nannies turned off in Forscan.

You will need the radiator and ic long before summer, and an oil cooler once it gets over 85 degrees ambient.

High on the mod list should be a LSD. These cars suck to drive on the street open diff imo, one wheel peel is gonna get old quick on track I bet. Engine mounts & spherical beam bushings slot in right below LSD in the usefulness in my experience.

 

[EscortSportage]

So years ago I ran the Hawk HP Plus and really liked them, I was actually looking at the G loc's but never ran them so I just ordered the Hawk for now, again its a street car. Can a tuner turn off the TVS/ESC with hptuners or cobb? Im new to the fiesta world, I also want to turn off the brake and throttle safety thing.

Are hood vents a must on these cars?

 

[Stubborn Approach]

Buy separate rotors & pads for the track, swap them the night before. It’s the only way, I run R14 & R10. I DD my FiST 40k+ miles per year and track it once or twice a month when it’s cools off out here.

TVS must be turned off in Forscan by someone that actually knows what they are doing so something else doesn’t get messed up. Will still probably need to pull the ABS fuse to keep crash detection at bay.

Hood vents are race inspired cosmetic enhancements primarily. The tiny radiator and fire breathing turbo weren’t designed to be in boost for 20 minutes at a time. Since coolant is used to cool the oil, it’s a negative feedback loop.

 

[EscortSportage]

You know its funny you mention about swapping pads and rotors, because I was actually thinking that might be the best bet, then I can run more aggressive pads once the Hawk ones wear out.

Can you explain the TVS system?

So you run no ABS on the track by pulling the Fuse?

I found a local guy selling an aluminum radiator really cheap so im planning on going to buy that soon, Going to install the Cobb intercooler, radiator, front tow strap and this intake scoop to the airbox all at once so I dont have to pull the bumper cover off again. Also I noticed the bottom half of the grill is solid plastic do track guys open up the entire grill for more airflow?

 

[Stubborn Approach]

The torque vectoring system is an electronic nanny Ford used instead of a mechanical LSD to control wheel slip by applying the brakes to the inside wheel while cornering (but really all the damn time). The electronic stability control also uses the brakes to control yaw. Both are incredibly invasive on track and will overheat the brakes to the point you can melt the boots on the ball joints & calipers. My track pads might last 3 events. Those HP+ likely won’t survive a full day.

Airflow isn’t the issue imo, but installing a skid plate will increase air flow into the engine compartment.

 

[EscortSportage]

Ah yes ive heard about this. I need to disable this ASAP. So can I buy ForScan and do this myself?

 

[Stubborn Approach]

Westley from EMS got on teamviewer on my laptop and went through Forscan to do it for me. I don’t know anyone else that can do it. It’s not entirely effective though, ESC button doesn’t work anymore but I can still feel it intervene at times. Mostly wet mornings, first session before track gets rubber and heat in it. Only the ABS fuse seems to be able to turn the nannies fully off & this is also necessary to avoid crash detection at certain racetracks.