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Carbon on Intake valves and misfires

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I wanted to share my experience with misfires recently. About a month ago I noticed a few misfires here and there at idle, I was low on fuel so I thought that was the problem. After refueling the problem still persisted and got a bit worse. I thought maybe it was the fuel so once I got the tank low enough I added a can of Techron and a few gallons of fuel from a different station. The misfires went away almost immediately but came back a few days later. There was never no CEL illuminated. I checked the gap on my plugs and I tried the OEM coils I had since I had installed whoosh ones a few months prior, no change. Fast forward to a week ago the misfires were a lot worse and it started to do it more on cold starts. I asked a buddy who works at ford and he told me it could be either carbon on my valves or the injector/s are starting to fail. I decided to clean my Intake valves. When I looked at them the second valve on cylinder 1 had a mountain of carbon. The other ones didn’t seem that bad but did have some buildup on the stems. I turned the engine until the valves were closed, sprayed brake clean, let it soak and hit the carbon with a pick. I cut up a piece of microfiber cloth and with the pick I cleaned the valves as best I could. I also had a vacuum on hand but didn’t use it much. Once I was done and put everything back together I let her get up to operating temperature. The engine seems to vibrate a lot less and runs a bit smoother at idle. So far I haven’t had a single misfire. I hope this helps someone else in the future that might be having this problem.
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IMG_2094.jpeg IMG_2097.jpeg https://youtube.com/shorts/lT44yZZ0uMk?si=ths5tRnXzW2RUQBH Here is a video of the misfires in action.
What I used to clean the valves and mileage IMG_2103.jpeg IMG_2104.jpeg
 


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Walnut blasting was always the eventual process for this in my mind but this seems pretty simple.

What are you physically doing to close the valves / rotate the engine? Is it a significant amount of extra disassembly to be able to do that?
 


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Walnut blasting was always the eventual process for this in my mind but this seems pretty simple.

What are you physically doing to close the valves / rotate the engine? Is it a significant amount of extra disassembly to be able to do that?
Yes I just rotated the engine until the valves I was cleaning were closed. Definitely easier to have a helper when rotating
 


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Sounds like detonation in the exhaust from running rich.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lT44yZZ0uMk?feature=share
There are tunes that specifically aim to produce this kind of thing while in decel, off the throttle.
Altered programming, cooling, intake or/and exhaust can have unintended side effects but Ford appears to have otherwise worked out such issues (LSPI, significant or impactful valve build up) with the 1.6L GTDI engine.

It's a good idea to use API-SN or better oil. Less may end up back in the intake with more viscous oils. (keeping the cold start trade-off in mind)

Retorqued intake bolts, fresh gasket, and other measures taken during reassembly, help eliminate potential sources for unmetered air.
 


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