FiST crash and fatality in SOCAL...

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Skimmed through not sure if someone else mentioned this, but they said the crash happened Saturday and they didn't find it till 10am Sunday... couldn't imagine the trauma inflicted by being stuck with your buddy's corpse for that long, knowing it was your fault...
 


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Yeah, it's really sad that one of the passengers died and not the driver.

Something like this is the primary reason I only ride by myself on my motorcycle. Even though I wouldn't squid about with my girlfriend on the back, I couldn't live with myself if someone hit us and she got hurt.
 


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I have a question that's sort of on topic. When people make videos of themselves wrecking their cars (and especially motorcycles) while street racing or through other jackassery do insurance company monitor these videos and then refuse to cover the damage? When I see the way some of these people drive and ride in these videos I think I would charge $1,000 a day if I was writing an insurance policy. It's one thing to push your limits but it's another to videotape yourself doing it and then post it online.
 


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There are a ton of U2b video showing folks taking blind curves in the wrong lane. Just as many drivers/riders are 25% over the yellows and without needing to be. Looks like some fun road but would keep my @$$ well away from it for that reason alone. Craziness is contagious. Just think. Most of these occurrences are not recorded at all, most of those that are recorded don't hit U2b and the overwhelming majority of those that end in catastrophe never get a chance to hit U2b. We got bike trails as wide as some sections of that road. GREAT scenery but I'll pass... no pun intended.

This reminds me of a near miss from some years ago. I was stuck behind a mail cart. https://s3.envato.com/files/75975784/03.jpg One lane each direction. 35mph residential zone. Clear, sunny. Straight road. Someone pulls up behind me. Sits for short minute. More cars start to line up behind him. He honks the horn, annoyed. Ordinarily I'd go around but I'm not budging because the mail cart is sitting on the other side of a hill crest... I can't see traffic coming off the other side of the hill. I don't care if I have to sit for ten minutes. I'll turn around rather than have to risk a head-on. So with another longer honk I just stick my hand out the window and motion the driver to go around. So he does and yip, here comes a car barreling over the hill crest in the oncoming lane... has to brake to avoid kissing the car that just went around me. After witnessing that, the other cars behind him patiently waited as I did. Once the mail cart progressed over the hill, THEN I went around.
 


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^^^Yeah, sometimes it seems to reach the point of brain-dead, "hold my beer and watch THIS", Cleetus rednecked peckerwoodism, combined with a way too strong sense of youthful, thinking of oneself as IMMORTAL. [nono]

That, or simply watching too many Touge FnF movies. ;)
 


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I have looked at this picture multiple times and just noticed the person laying on the rock.
That looks like a rescue worker with a tan backpack on. Him?
 


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I’m on roads like that with an 80,000 lb truck. RIP
 


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Doesn't matter if it's old. Something like this is always relevant
 


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IT does show to live within your means and life is fragile. But Mother nature does need to have natural selection.



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GMR!!! I grew up in Claremont down the hill. Used to drive and downhill longboard those roads. It's what got me into 'handling' cars.

Lots of crashes especially kids up there[emoji3525] the road turns to gravel on the shoulder and gets washed out with the added random football sized rocks and potholes around blind turns. You can have fun up there but too many out drive their eyes or their abilities. Especially downhill.

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I used to organize rallies years ago and wanted to put on the only tarmac rally in the area. I wanted to use the uphill section of Glendora Mountain Rd, 7.5 miles, up to the saddle. Then split the 12 mile run out to Baldy as two stages. Then service at the only privately owned land in the Angeles National Forest. The owner wanted us to put it on. Then do a reverse run of the 12 miles and finish. I put a hell of a lot of my time getting all the permits from the CHP, Fire Dept, Sheriff's Dept and the US Forestry Service and it was looking great until I tried to get permission from a County Supervisor's office, namely Mike Antonovich. We had all the insurance for the evnt as well as access to the SD Search and Rescue chopper should we need it. My application was turned down because Antonovich was afraid that his constituents would not re-elect him if the event went ahead. Those roads are awesome if you know what you're doing!
 


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Re rallystaff: It seems that over the decades, "don't tread on me" has gradually become, "can't tread on self." We've gradually outlawed our own ability to put self at risk, on the OFF chance that it MIGHT put someone else at risk. Because laws undeniably change behaviors, (I mean, nobody uses drugs/alcohol anymore,) eventually "Darwin Events" will become a thing of the past. Everyone will sit at home, doing nothing while collecting bailouts erp... loans erp... grants from the Federal Government.
 


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No seatbelts? Man. I'm surprised anyone survived. Mountain roads are dangerous. You really need to know your limits when driving fast in the mountains
Ik it’s been years, but I was just telling a friend about my accident and stumbled upon this forum. We were in fact all wearing seatbelts. I don’t know why the article said that, maybe because we were stuck down there for hours so we had time to leave the car for a bit. But the seatbelt was probably the only reason I didn’t fly out of the car, I have a scar on my neck from it.
 


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