Please Help!!!

[BenSanta]

Hello fellow FiST owners. I have a 2015 FiST with 89,000 miles. I started noticing some big problems lately and I want to know why they are happening. Below are a list of a couple problems and please try to help me understand what they are and how I can fix them. Note that I bought this car used so I don't know if I can still use the recalls if there are any.

1) If I'm at cruising RPM's and I give it 70% or more throttle to it without changing gears, the RPM's shoot up from about 1900-4500 and the engine gets louder but no acceleration is happening. After a second or 2, the RPM's go back down to the cruising RPM and it repeats that process. However, when I do that in 4th gear, I hear grinding where the shifter is. Is my transmission slipping?

2) From stop, when I put my car in 1st and start going, my car shakes a little bit. Not like it's going to stall out at all (I know how to drive stick, never had this problem before). Do I need a new clutch?

3) This one only happens sometimes but when I'm in 1st going into 2nd, I push in the clutch and the RPM's should go down but it stays high up until I put it into 2nd and drop the clutch then it goes down real fast.

Again, someone please help me out. I love my car so much and I don't want to get ride of it. Any suggestion helps!! Thanks you my fellow FiSTers

 

[SrsBsns]

Hello fellow FiST owners. I have a 2015 FiST with 89,000 miles. I started noticing some big problems lately and I want to know why they are happening. Below are a list of a couple problems and please try to help me understand what they are and how I can fix them. Note that I bought this car used so I don't know if I can still use the recalls if there are any.

1) If I'm at cruising RPM's and I give it 70% or more throttle to it without changing gears, the RPM's shoot up from about 1900-4500 and the engine gets louder but no acceleration is happening. After a second or 2, the RPM's go back down to the cruising RPM and it repeats that process. However, when I do that in 4th gear, I hear grinding where the shifter is. Is my transmission slipping?

I'm not sure I follow. It sounds to me like this could be a boost leak. If you're giving it throttle and the RPMs increase, but you're not accelerating, I'd assume that you have a nasty boost leak and don't have power.

2) From stop, when I put my car in 1st and start going, my car shakes a little bit. Not like it's going to stall out at all (I know how to drive stick, never had this problem before). Do I need a new clutch?

Could be a motor mount? Does the clutch grab ok?

3) This one only happens sometimes but when I'm in 1st going into 2nd, I push in the clutch and the RPM's should go down but it stays high up until I put it into 2nd and drop the clutch then it goes down real fast.

Sounds like rev-hang. Is the car tuned? Stock?

 

[maestromaestro]

Hello fellow FiST owners. I have a 2015 FiST with 89,000 miles. I started noticing some big problems lately and I want to know why they are happening. Below are a list of a couple problems and please try to help me understand what they are and how I can fix them. Note that I bought this car used so I don't know if I can still use the recalls if there are any.

1) If I'm at cruising RPM's and I give it 70% or more throttle to it without changing gears, the RPM's shoot up from about 1900-4500 and the engine gets louder but no acceleration is happening. After a second or 2, the RPM's go back down to the cruising RPM and it repeats that process. However, when I do that in 4th gear, I hear grinding where the shifter is. Is my transmission slipping?

2) From stop, when I put my car in 1st and start going, my car shakes a little bit. Not like it's going to stall out at all (I know how to drive stick, never had this problem before). Do I need a new clutch?

3) This one only happens sometimes but when I'm in 1st going into 2nd, I push in the clutch and the RPM's should go down but it stays high up until I put it into 2nd and drop the clutch then it goes down real fast.

Again, someone please help me out. I love my car so much and I don't want to get ride of it. Any suggestion helps!! Thanks you my fellow FiSTers

This to me sounds like most, if not all, is tied to the clutch. The mileage is high enough to corroborate this hypothesis.

I'd think if you had a boost leak, you'd not experience a rise in RPMs without the concomitant acceleration - I had the IC hose pop off on me a couple of times, and it resulted in a much slower car at the same throttle (essentially, non boosted 1.6L). You see RPMs go up, but no acceleration - to me, it's the clutch slipping.

 

[Ford ST]

It's the clutch. Time for a new one.

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[Dpro]

Second or third the clutch assessment. No pun intended.

 

[kivnul]

*puts engineer hat on*
When in gear, there is a linear relationship between engine rpm and speedometer**. The only time this will break down is when something between the engine and the wheels decouples. The only thing designed to do that is the clutch/flywheel interface, on command, by usage of the clutch pedal. If the rpm goes up and you do not go faster, the most likely cause is that the clutch is slipping against the flywheel instead of sticking to it. This can be caused by the clutch itself just being worn out or the clutch is not being forced hard enough against the flywheel. In either case, it is time to replace the clutch, and since you have had this happen for a while, the flywheel is most likely toast as well.

Boost leak is represented as if you press the gas pedal, and neither rpm nor speed go up as fast as normal.

** Initially wrote speed, but doing a wicked burn out does mimic the clutch being toast in some ways.. Lots of RPM and no go. Lots of smell.

EDIT: added word "wheels". Somehow I lost it.

 

[Dpro]

*puts engineer hat on*
When in gear, there is a linear relationship between engine rpm and speedometer**. The only time this will break down is when something between the engine and the decouples. The only thing designed to do that is the clutch/flywheel interface, on command, by usage of the clutch pedal. If the rpm goes up and you do not go faster, the most likely cause is that the clutch is slipping against the flywheel instead of sticking to it. This can be caused by the clutch itself just being worn out or the clutch is not being forced hard enough against the flywheel. In either case, it is time to replace the clutch, and since you have had this happen for a while, the flywheel is most likely toast as well.

Boost leak is represented as if you press the gas pedal, and neither rpm nor speed go up as fast as normal.

** Initially wrote speed, but doing a wicked burn out does mimic the clutch being toast in some ways.. Lots of RPM and no go. Lots of smell.

Lets get into depth and detail and people thought I went too far explaining things out sometimes. No harm no foul just could not resist responding. Spot on!

 

[StigST]

Check this out. Today in USA Today.

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[Dpro]

Check this out. Today in USA Today.

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Crack up is they used FoRS and FiST got the pics which are not part of the warranty extension. Dumb article writer did do his research thoroughly lol

 

[danbfree]

Crack up is they used FoRS and FiST got the pics which are not part of the warranty extension. Dump article writer did do his research thoroughly lol

Exactly... I mean we've been making fun of the online articles that are doing this for a while, showing a manual only model when the problem is only with the base models with automatics, and they STILL do this in print now! LOL

 

[danbfree]

Check this out. Today in USA Today.

Great, like our resale values need any more help on the way down... maybe FoRS will drop value now too? HMMMM... LOL

 

[XR650R]

Check this out. Today in USA Today.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...ocus-fiesta-clutches-transmission/2008622001/

 

[Ford ST]

I could care less about resale value I don't sell vehicles.
But anyway that transmission is not fixable it is failed by design. Their own engineers told them so, they didn't listen. Their attorneys told them to never pursue a dry dual clutch transmission they did anyway.
Keyword is dry. Wet clutches work fine.

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[danbfree]

I could care less about resale value I don't sell vehicles.
But anyway that transmission is not fixable it is failed by design. Their own engineers told them so, they didn't listen. Their attorneys told them to never pursue a dry dual clutch transmission they did anyway.
Keyword is dry. Wet clutches work fine.

Well, it was a joke and some of us have considered buying a FoRS if the price was righ, but anyway... The DCT was half baked... they finally got the seals and software right in 2016, just FIVE years too late! LOL... No seriously, you might want to re-read, the attorneys and engineers just said it *wasn't ready* and apparently that was indeed the case. There is a reason late '16+ don't have warranty extensions, it's because they finally got them to a reasonable level... Sure, not likely to ever last as long as a slush box without needing the clutches replaced but still.

 

[XR650R]

We're talking about the DCT used in the automatics, right?

 

[XR650R]

Crack up is they used FoRS and FiST got the pics which are not part of the warranty extension. Dump article writer did do his research thoroughly lol

Most papers use "stock photos." They'll just grab a photo that looks about right that they can legally use, and run with it. Whoever got those photos clearly isn't a Ford enthusiast. They just needed pics of 2 cars. At least they picked the cool ones!

Recently, some people pointed out that some of the pics of the Brazil fires weren't actually of those specific fires. Not a big deal, as long as the reporting is accurate. We all know what fires look like.

 

[Ford ST]

Well, it was a joke and some of us have considered buying a FoRS if the price was righ, but anyway... The DCT was half baked... they finally got the seals and software right in 2016, just FIVE years too late! LOL... No seriously, you might want to re-read, the attorneys and engineers just said it *wasn't ready* and apparently that was indeed the case. There is a reason late '16+ don't have warranty extensions, it's because they finally got them to a reasonable level... Sure, not likely to ever last as long as a slush box without needing the clutches replaced but still.

We will agree to disagree. I'm on the focus site plenty of people with 2017/18 still having issues. It's been discussed dry dual clutches do not work.
It is destined to fail.

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[Ford ST]

Most papers use "stock photos." They'll just grab a photo that looks about right that they can legally use, and run with it. Whoever got those photos clearly isn't a Ford enthusiast. They just needed pics of 2 cars. At least they picked the cool ones!

Recently, some people pointed out that some of the pics of the Brazil fires weren't actually of those specific fires. Not a big deal, as long as the reporting is accurate. We all know what fires look like.

100% correct.

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[Dpro]

We will agree to disagree. I'm on the focus site plenty of people with 2017/18 still having issues. It's been discussed dry dual clutches do not work.
It is destined to fail.

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Actually in fact they changed out to regular Auto”s for the last model year of the Fusion Focus and Fiesta.

It really was a crap shoot my 2012 worked decently and was smooth I lived with the quirks of acting like a slipping manual clutch some times because for the most part it drove fine for me. Lots were not as lucky and had a herky jerky experience.
I put 40k on that car in just under 2 years of driving, I bought it for $7250 33k drove Lyft and Uber with it and dumped it off at 73k for $5850. It paid for itself and then some because over 10-12k of my FiST. money came from that lol.

 

[Ford ST]

Actually in fact they changed out to regular Auto”s for the last model year of the Fusion Focus and Fiesta.

It really was a crap shoot my 2012 worked decently and was smooth I lived with the quirks of acting like a slipping manual clutch some times because for the most part it drove fine for me. Lots were not as lucky and had a herky jerky experience.
I put 40k on that car in just under 2 years of driving, I bought it for $7250 33k drove Lyft and Uber with it and dumped it off at 73k for $5850. It paid for itself and then some because over 10-12k of my FiST. money came from that lol.

Are you sure on that I haven't seen any information. Not a single person has mentioned that on the focus site.
Maybe it was the one overseas that got the new transmission.
Nevermind there is no 2019 Ford Focus in America.

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