Just got Pro tuned at Cobb Plano.

[Kip2MyLou]

Well the cobb intake didn't cost me much more than that.

 

[re-rx7]

Well the cobb intake didn't cost me much more than that.

What matters is you're happy. As for me I have the Cobb drop in and will buy the mountune hose. If I go "big turbo" I'll swap to the 2j.

 

[Kip2MyLou]

What matters is you're happy. As for me I have the Cobb drop in and will buy the mountune hose. If I go "big turbo" I'll swap to the 2j.

Well I don't know much about tuning so I'm trying not to buy something I don't necessarily need. And you mean the 2j cowl intake?

 

[re-rx7]

Well I don't know much about tuning so I'm trying not to buy something I don't necessarily need. And you mean the 2j cowl intake?

Yea. I'm just saying if you want to save a few bucks and get the same end result.

 

[COBB Tuning1]

Case in point. Stock box with K&N drop in vs intake. This one even had a large filter in the stock location.

http://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/threads/1076-Fiesta-ST-Intake-Dyno-Tested

This thread is a great example of why we designed our intake using the factory airbox: a much larger surface area filter for increased air intake, smoother bends, and heatsoak prevention in the factory box.

Ian

 

[re-rx7]

This thread is a great example of why we designed our intake using the factory airbox: a much larger surface area filter for increased air intake, smoother bends, and heatsoak prevention in the factory box.

Ian

None of them made more power even with the filter out of the engine bay.

 

[antarctica24]

Just got tuned at Cobb. Car put down 186whp and 285 lb ft on 93. Gained around 12 whp all through the curve and 20lb ft of tq. Car feels so much better now. Numbers sound low? OTS stage 1 Fist put down 165 same dyno. LOL

Am I missing something here? Why are your rear wheels turning? The dyno is supposed to be driven by the car not the other way around.

 

[re-rx7]

Am I missing something here? Why are your rear wheels turning? The dyno is supposed to be driven by the car not the other way around.

AWD dyno. Means all wheels will turn.

 

[antarctica24]

AWD dyno. Means all wheels will turn.

I have spent a lot of time tuning on a dyno for other cars, never on a 4 wheel dyno, but if you are telling me that when you turn the front wheels the back wheels turn because the dyno, you are losing HP through the dyno much like you would if it was a rear wheel drive car would you not? Im thinking something certainly would not be reporting correctly as to your actual power numbers. You need to find you a 2 wheel dyno.

 

[re-rx7]

I have spent a lot of time tuning on a dyno for other cars, never on a 4 wheel dyno, but if you are telling me that when you turn the front wheels the back wheels turn because the dyno, you are losing HP through the dyno much like you would if it was a rear wheel drive car would you not? Im thinking something certainly would not be reporting correctly as to your actual power numbers. You need to find you a 2 wheel dyno.

IDC about the numbers. As you should know a dyno is a tool for tuning and nothing more.

 

[antarctica24]

IDC about the numbers. As you should know a dyno is a tool for tuning and nothing more.

Well if you don't care about the numbers why not just tune it on the street it will be a lot more accurate than tuning on a dyno and you want have to worry about those crazy numbers

 

[re-rx7]

Well if you don't care about the numbers why not just tune it on the street it will be a lot more accurate than tuning on a dyno and you want have to worry about those crazy numbers

Because there aren't any good tuner where I live. Also, idk why you care about the numbers so much anyway? ITs obviously pretty quick judging by the numbers/vids I posted.

 

[antarctica24]

Because there aren't any good tuner where I live. Also, idk why you care about the numbers so much anyway? ITs obviously pretty quick judging by the numbers/vids I posted.

I'm not sure where the attitude is coming from it was a question the purpose of a forum is to share and learn not try to be an ass. You posted a picture of a fiesta on a dyno with all 4 wheels running I made a comment. Chill out I'm sure you car is fast enjoy the ride sorry for bothering you withy the question. I've never owned a slow 4 cylinder before so I didn't know everything until now have been v-8"s. At 200-250hp these cars including my own are slow.

 

[re-rx7]

I'm not sure where the attitude is coming from it was a question the purpose of a forum is to share and learn not try to be an ass. You posted a picture of a fiesta on a dyno with all 4 wheels running I made a comment. Chill out I'm sure you car is fast enjoy the ride sorry for bothering you withy the question. I've never owned a slow 4 cylinder before so I didn't know everything until now have been v-8"s. At 200-250hp these cars including my own are slow.

Fast is relative. IVe owned evos, dsms, 5.0s. At 250whp this car should run with a new 5.0. All you know is v8's? Are they some mystical different motor that works on different principles?

 

[MOFiST]

Matt Farah doesn't care about numbers either lol. Sorry couldn't help myself hehe. Your right about it all being relative. I mean a formula 1 is gonna be slow next to a top fuel dragster right?

 

[antarctica24]

Fast is relative. IVe owned evos, dsms, 5.0s. At 250whp this car should run with a new 5.0. All you know is v8's? Are they some mystical different motor that works on different principles?

Well sure 4 extra cylinders. I don't see any 4 cylinders making 625ft lbs at 2500 rpm. I don't see any 4 cylinders making 822hp that are street legal. Gm did take a cobalt and make 2000 to run at the salt flats. The same has been done with the quad four. The torque steer problems with fwd. oh yeah and having to have 4 wheel drive to take advantage of it. Cool though. I spent lots of years tuning on hp tuners and tuning On the road was so much easier than tuning on the dyno and this was a street car. Every time we put the thing on the dyno we had to have guys sit in the back to keep it down on the rollers. And it was getting 26mpg on the open highway and passed nc state inspection.

As I look to gain anything extra out of my fiST which I love I find the more I spend the more the diminishing return on the investment. It looks like the Cobb st3 is about 3k and will net me about 60 ft lbs. that kind of money in a v8 would have yielded 250 hp and 200 ft lbs. not to mention your evo while I consider it to be one of the great 4 cyl cars it is limited to about 450 maybe 500.

The evo could not have kept up with th car no matter how hard it tried. Mustang 5.0's are weak to begin with from the factory. If your evo is racing a king cobra and running away with it that is a great story. If the evo is wiping the ground of a 600hp rear wheel drive car again a great story but you don't see that. Hell a Hayabusa had a hard time running away from my TA not something that would ever come up in conversation when involving any 4 cylinder. So yeah a little special. In case you wanted to call bs on the TA you can see it in pro chargers gallery along with the dyno graph when it would hook up on the dyno.

 

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Haha, at least you could tow a big trailer with all that torque at 2500rpm... Must have been great driving up mountains loaded with cattle.
Yes, there are street legal rwd 4 cylinders making over 822whp (not hp) that walk away from hayabusas (slow low revving old tech) and more current litre bikes. Sure they don't make 600+wtq, but they don't need to. There are also fwd cars that make between 600-1100whp also street legal that would make your t/a look like a cobalt...
Time to open your mind a bit

 

[Sourskittle]

I think the easiest way to finish this is simply to say..... Cobb does not offer street tuning. Cobb prob is the best tuner for this car, as they have the most experience with it.

I agree a lot with both you guys

Cars def act differently on the street, but no company as big as cobb is going to say , "ok, lets get on a back road and do a couple 30-90mph pulls. Lol.

 

[re-rx7]

Evo is limited to 600hp bwhahahah

 

[rodmoe]

Your right about it all being relative. I mean a formula 1 is gonna be slow next to a top fuel dragster right?

Only until they gotta turn left .. good point though speed is relative..