Pedal Spacers

[SirThomas88]

SirThomas88, any updates on this?

Printing a test print right now to check the fitment actually.

I just installed a Garageline spacer this last weekend...
IMO - It's a real solid part, but a little too tall. The gas pedal is about the same height as the brake pedal now (maybe a little shorter). With the spacers' side adjustment all the way to the right, the gas pedal is too close to the brake pedal. If I slid the adjustment all the way to the left, the pedals would be touching. So now I am more rolling onto the gas pedal with the side of my foot vs a true toe/heel action. I can deal with it, but wish it was maybe a **** hair shorter and was able to side adjust to the right more.

I bought and installed a 3/8" 3D printed one last weekend. I like it, but feel a little taller would be better. I was all set to order the garage line, when I saw the previous post, lol. I think I will stick with what I got. Better than stock

So if 3/8" (9.5mm) is too small and Garageline (30mm) is too big then I'll try to offer something in the middle. Also checking to see how much I can minimize the leftward adjustment.

 

[FiSTerMr]

Printing a test print right now to check the fitment actually.





So if 3/8" (9.5mm) is too small and Garageline (30mm) is too big then I'll try to offer something in the middle. Also checking to see how much I can minimize the leftward adjustment.

There's a 3d print file available online for .5",.75", 1.25" & 1.5".

I'm guessing you have seen them. They don't have side to side adjustment. That is probably the tricky part.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1369818




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[SirThomas88]

There's a 3d print file available online for .5",.75", 1.25" & 1.5".

I'm guessing you have seen them. They don't have side to side adjustment. That is probably the tricky part.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1369818




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Yeah I have seen that. Though I actually didn't realize that was the same one being sold on eBay until you pointed it out.

I decided I wanted to make my own because for one, the author of that file didn't allow a commercial license, and I didn't want to steal the part, and also because I want to try to make one that relocates horizontally.

 

[FiSTerMr]

Yeah I have seen that. Though I actually didn't realize that was the same one being sold on eBay until you pointed it out.

I decided I wanted to make my own because for one, the author of that file didn't allow a commercial license, and I didn't want to steal the part, and also because I want to try to make one that relocates horizontally.

I see. Im new to the whole 3d printing thing. Side to side adjustment would definitely be a good thing. I would be interested. Thanks for your efforts

 

[syasar]

Alright so the spacer came in, haven’t had a chance to get the hardware so I let you guys know later where it sit as for the size.

For the quality it seems fine enough, rough edges but functional. Seems pretty rigid. As for the density, it pretty light and under a flashlight you can see see the infill. It seems like 30%-40% honeycomb infill, form what I have been reading online but I’m no expert.

I think it good for now it should be plenty strong.

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[syasar]

To so just realized why they don’t make 3/4 spacers, since with the spacer and pedal assembly that stud is topped off there are no threads to grab on too.

So it basically fills the distance exactly to the end of the stud. I can’t use a coupler either as the I would need at minimum a 1/4-1/2 inch extra on the spacer to push the pedal out far enough to be able the thread another bolt in.

Alright so form my mistake, the spacer must be under 3/4inch to use the factory stud and bolt. And at-least over 1.25in to utilize a coupler nut and new bolt.



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[FiSTerMr]

To so just realized why they don’t make 3/4 spacers, since with the spacer and pedal assembly that stud is topped off there are no threads to grab on too.

So it basically fills the distance exactly to the end of the stud. I can’t use a coupler either as the I would need at minimum a 1/4-1/2 inch extra on the spacer to push the pedal out far enough to be able the thread another bolt in.

Alright so form my mistake, the spacer must be under 3/4inch to use the factory stud and bolt. And at-least over 1.25in to utilize a coupler nut and new bolt.



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Yep! I would say that anything over 3/8-1/2 would require alternate hardware to adapt to the (short) oem studs. Even at 3/8 I was concerned. But I used some locktite blue with the 3/8 spacer and oem stud posts, so I think I'm good.

 

[DBLE]

Yeah I have seen that. Though I actually didn't realize that was the same one being sold on eBay until you pointed it out.

I decided I wanted to make my own because for one, the author of that file didn't allow a commercial license, and I didn't want to steal the part, and also because I want to try to make one that relocates horizontally.

Any updates on the one you're designing?

 

[SirThomas88]

Any updates on the one you're designing?

Had to stop working on it for a couple weeks as I was traveling for work which delayed me and I'm working on a few other Fiesta ST items simultaneously. But I am making progress, I temporarily installed a test print onto my car the other day and am currently making some adjustments.

It will probably will be another 3 weeks before it's finished. Trying to have it all finished in time before the holidays.

 

[DBLE]

Nice. Look forward to what you've come up with. I had the GL pedal spacer briefly but had some issues with it, so I sold it. Anxious to see yours.

 

[Variable]

So, after some time getting used to the Garageline spacer, I like it a lot more than I originally did. I originally thought the spacer was too tall. Now, it feels about right. I do still wish I could move it over a maybe a 1/4-1/2 inch more to the right and drop the gas pedal to the floor an inch or so.

I think the FiST pedal placement overall, especially the brake and gas, is too far to the left.

For me, the addition of the Garageline spacer, Cobb shift plate bushings, and Mountune quick shift bracket are cheap(er) key parts to making the car fun to drive. Anything is better than the stock situation!

 

[maestromaestro]

There needs to be a Goldilocks one made - the No-Pistons is good, but doesn't move the gas pedal closer to the brake one; the GarageLine is good, but it is too thick for the track. Ideally, the spacer needs to be just thick enough to engage the fasteners, as under hard braking, the pedals are where they need to be from the factory, save for the gap. Now, if you are a sizable ungulate, then perhaps no need for any spacer for your heel-and-toe...

 

[SirThomas88]

Nice. Look forward to what you've come up with. I had the GL pedal spacer briefly but had some issues with it, so I sold it. Anxious to see yours.

What didn't you like about it? Was it the height? Or the lateral positioning?

 

[DBLE]

What didn't you like about it? Was it the height? Or the lateral positioning?

A little of both. Under full braking, the gas pedal was too high, making heel-toe awkward for me. And moved fully to the right on the mount, the pedals were still a bit too close while wearing normal sneakers or work shoes. Maybe my skinnier driving shoes would've helped from back when I owned a couple of NC Miata weekend toys, but I didn't want to do that with the FiST being my daily now.

Also, though, my main thing was that the GL spacer moved the gas pedal to the left regardless if the gas pedal was bolted as far right on the mount as allowable, meaning an electrical connector on the gas pedal arm moved left, too. Under full braking, then, the brake pedal arm got REALLY REALLY close to this electrical connector, which couldn't happen with the gas pedal in the stock setup since it is over to the right more (hence why GL made their mount in the first place). And this was happening when I was under the dash and using my arm to press the brake pedal. My legs are stronger than my arms, so while driving, I don't know know if the brake pedal arm actually ever touched this electrical connector. Even if it didn't, it was still something I wasn't comfortable with. I emailed GL to get their thoughts on this but never heard back.

 

[SirThomas88]

A little of both. Under full braking, the gas pedal was too high, making heel-toe awkward for me. And moved fully to the right on the mount, the pedals were still a bit too close while wearing normal sneakers or work shoes. Maybe my skinnier driving shoes would've helped from back when I owned a couple of NC Miata weekend toys, but I didn't want to do that with the FiST being my daily now.

Also, though, my main thing was that the GL spacer moved the gas pedal to the left regardless if the gas pedal was bolted as far right on the mount as allowable, meaning an electrical connector on the gas pedal arm moved left, too. Under full braking, then, the brake pedal arm got REALLY REALLY close to this electrical connector, which couldn't happen with the gas pedal in the stock setup since it is over to the right more (hence why GL made their mount in the first place). And this was happening when I was under the dash and using my arm to press the brake pedal. My legs are stronger than my arms, so while driving, I don't know know if the brake pedal arm actually ever touched this electrical connector. Even if it didn't, it was still something I wasn't comfortable with. I emailed GL to get their thoughts on this but never heard back.

I see.. I've tested out the GarageLine pedal spacer and I also agree it is a tad too high. For me however, the farthest right position isn't enough leftward movement. Maybe my feet or shoes aren't as wide as yours, or maybe i like to roll my foot where you want to use your heel.

If you find the GL spacer's minimum left movement too much and the height too high, are you sure that a pedal spacer which is shorter but doesn't have lateral movement isn't best for you?

The pedal spacer I am designing currently is 1cm shorter than the GarageLine and also the absolute least movement to the left without the studs/screws/nuts from hitting each other. But to make the spacer shorter and allow left movement will require drilling a single hole in the plastic base of the gas pedal to allow room for the studs, since the GarageLine height is already as low as it can go without the studs from the firewall getting in the way.

I'm curious to hear what people think about drilling a hole in their gas pedal base in order to achieve this "perfect" 1cm drop in height combined with leftward relocation. Likely I'd end up designing the spacer with exactly TWO leftward positions to choose from, one which is less than GarageLine's minimum movement, and one that is about in the middle of GL's movement. This would require choosing which position you like, and drilling the hole accordingly.

Are people willing to do that for the perfect height and lateral movement? I can position it so that the drilling is as simple and non-destructive as possible. Personally I wouldn't be worried about any loss of structural integrity from one hole.

A heads up for anyone waiting for my pedal spacer design, I've put the pedal spacer project on the side for now to give me more time to determine the perfect positions and consider which direction to go and so I can finish up some other projects in the meantime. I want to make sure this pedal is done right and offers different positions that isn't available from someone else. So as of now I expect to have something about ready perhaps sometime in January.

 

[syasar]

So I decided to just get the garageline, was testing before I came back with a update. The garage line for someone with small feet worked out well. Wished it was shorter. But atleast the my foot doesn’t fall through anymore. I had to push it all the way to the right, and I can angle my foot just fine.

Thus far probably the best bet. Only complaint is heel toe on hard braking (rare*). Good upgrade. I learned to deal with the exact right.

 

[BlueRidgeST]

BUMP from the dead
- How's the project coming SirThomas88?
- Garage Line quit making these new, so options are limited to Etsy, and ebay
EBay
Etsy
- Does no-pistons still make and sell his?

I wear a size 12 and am a bigger guy, but I too miss heel-toeing in the NA miata.

Is 3/8" a good compromise for track and dailying as it's not too high under hard braking and isn't extremely difficult to use on a daily basis?

I've also noticed some ankle fatigue on long trips due to the position of the gas pedal, I assume higher would be better for this?

 

[WutApex]

Not sure if this helps or not, but I never installed my printed spacer after getting this pedal since it had some of its own spacers included. Plus it was more easily removable if I didn't like it. Also allowed me to adjust the spacing between the brake too.
I have yet to take it to the track though...

 

[Thurber]

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Not sure if this helps or not, but I never installed my printed spacer after getting this pedal since it had some of its own spacers included. Plus it was more easily removable if I didn't like it. Also allowed me to adjust the spacing between the brake too.
I have yet to take it to the track though...

Who makes (or where did you get) that pedal?

 

[DEss]

Who makes (or where did you get) that pedal?

Looks like the razo large accelerator. Amazon for ~$20. It's held on via metal straps and double sided tape. I use it in conjunction with a pedal spacer and it works ok.

DEss