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Fun to drive 'grown-up' car?
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I don't think it was mentioned, but while at Hyundai, the veloster n with performance package could be a contender. Automotive journalists tend to agree its more engaging to drive than anything in the class ie focus rs, golf r and just about equal with the type r. I do get however the look isn't for everyone if you're going for understated
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I mean it’s much more understated than the Civic Type R, and honestly I don’t think the N is really that showy even if you get it in that blue color. It’s on my short list of cars to look at when it comes time to say goodbye to the FiST, but I assumed OP was looking for something a bit bigger than the FiST lol.
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Honestly the Veloster N would be a FiST replacement if it ever was totaled and I couldn't find a new one. The golf r is only being considered because the dealer says I can get one close to gti Autobahn pricing. Even in green the golf r is a far cry from fuckboi mobile. I really wish I could like the gli. New 35th anniversary editions are going for $26k.
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Lol glad we're able to joke about it. I like my toys. If it weren't for cars and my fiance, I'd probably just be a homeless surf bum in Hawaii [emoji1787].
The fact that I'm keeping the FiST speaks to how awesome a car it is.
I just need the car equivalent of a business suit [emoji56]
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The fact that I'm keeping the FiST speaks to how awesome a car it is.
I just need the car equivalent of a business suit [emoji56]
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Test drove a new 2019 golf r dsg w/ Dcc and nav today in the weirdest 'contactless' test drive I've had. Sales agent wiped down everything so it was wet with lysol then insisted he sit in the back seat the entire time. Between the masks and sitting behind me he couldn't hear all my questions.
Wow. Just wow. DCC and the dsg make the golf r feel like a sleeper r8. A couple power/traction mods and it'd be a legitimate supercar contender.
Tried to negotiate with salesperson for a discount equivalent to sales tax (already quoted $1000 below MSRP and 0%) or to see if they'd price match an out of state price before taxes/fees. Was told that next week they'll be offering better rebates and possibly better incentives. I could get a better deal on A manual but those can't handle any additional power.
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Wow. Just wow. DCC and the dsg make the golf r feel like a sleeper r8. A couple power/traction mods and it'd be a legitimate supercar contender.
Tried to negotiate with salesperson for a discount equivalent to sales tax (already quoted $1000 below MSRP and 0%) or to see if they'd price match an out of state price before taxes/fees. Was told that next week they'll be offering better rebates and possibly better incentives. I could get a better deal on A manual but those can't handle any additional power.
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Pretty much past any used 'performance' trim luxury car. A lot of tempting $60k used cars still have the maintenance costs of a $100k vehicle.
This golf r is the first vehicle I'd consider replacing the FiST with.
I'll look more into Lexus, just seemed expensive and kind of boring to me.
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This golf r is the first vehicle I'd consider replacing the FiST with.
I'll look more into Lexus, just seemed expensive and kind of boring to me.
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It's hard to argue with the performance of the VDub R, but I just am not too amorous of it's looks/aesthetics, albeit, those staid, conservative, almost boring lines may be just what you need to placate those clients/investors. ![[dunno]](/images/smilies/icon_smile_dunno.gif "Dunno [dunno]")
Now, if they ever offered a POLO R here, with that same/similar R power/drive train, that's a whole 'nother story.![[wink]](/images/smilies/wink.gif "Wink [wink]")
![[driving]](/images/smilies/icon_smile_driving.gif "Driving [driving]")
Now, if they ever offered a POLO R here, with that same/similar R power/drive train, that's a whole 'nother story.
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It's hard to argue with the performance of the VDub R, but I just am not too amorous of it's looks/aesthetics, albeit, those staid, conservative, almost boring lines may be just what you need to placate those clients/investors.
Now, if they ever offered a POLO R here, with that same/similar R power/drive train, that's a whole 'nother story.
Now, if they ever offered a POLO R here, with that same/similar R power/drive train, that's a whole 'nother story.
Right now isn't the easiest time to test drive cars. Toyota basically told me I'm SOL lol. A lot of companies are shifting to taking care of their current customer vs making new sales.
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Yup, that’s a brain fart on my part for some odd reason I read ES. Either way, when talking sporty and luxury, Lexus has got to be one of the last brands I think of. They do luxury very well, they just do ‘sport’ below average at their price point. Which is not to say that they don’t make compelling products (if you can get past the styling), but I generally don’t think of a Toyota product as the answer when someone says that they want a fun car.
As far as MB reliability goes, that specific engine and car are relatively simple, with no major mechanical issues reported. It does go through consumables (tires, brakes, fuel, etc) at a higher rate than most would find acceptable, but there are a number of us on the forum that generally understand that with cars built for ’sport’ means paying to play. Frankly, I’m of the opinion that maintenance is king when it comes to vehicle reliability. I don’t subscribe to the fact that Toyota=reliable, that’s what people who only buy ‘reliable’ cars tell themselves to justify purchasing a car that fulfills the basic needs of transportation, without being interesting or anywhere near as enjoyable as the vast majority of its competitors. Call me crazy, but I’ve purchased a lot Ford products, which are generally considered unreliable by the public, but I understand that preventative maintenance is more important than reputation and I’d have assumed that other Ford owners would have a similar understanding.
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As far as MB reliability goes, that specific engine and car are relatively simple, with no major mechanical issues reported. It does go through consumables (tires, brakes, fuel, etc) at a higher rate than most would find acceptable, but there are a number of us on the forum that generally understand that with cars built for ’sport’ means paying to play. Frankly, I’m of the opinion that maintenance is king when it comes to vehicle reliability. I don’t subscribe to the fact that Toyota=reliable, that’s what people who only buy ‘reliable’ cars tell themselves to justify purchasing a car that fulfills the basic needs of transportation, without being interesting or anywhere near as enjoyable as the vast majority of its competitors. Call me crazy, but I’ve purchased a lot Ford products, which are generally considered unreliable by the public, but I understand that preventative maintenance is more important than reputation and I’d have assumed that other Ford owners would have a similar understanding.
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