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So, this is how it went down...

I drove there tuned so I decided to just do the tuned runs first.

The guy running the dyno is used to high revving Hondas, I guess, so he was starting the runs too high in the band.
Run 1 - 3rd gear from 3k RPM - garbage
Run 2 - 4th gear from 3k RPM - garbage
Run 3 - 4th gear from ~ 2.5k RPM - shown above.
Run 4 - 4th gear from ~ 2.5k RPM - no improvement.

I took 10-15 minutes to bullshit and flash back to stock (no fans running at all the whole time, by the way).
Stock...
Run 5 - Shown above.

- I don't know how long it takes to heat soak a car on a dyno.
- I had no way of monitoring boost (which was really annoying).
- I *heard* this dyno reads low on torque. I don't even know if that's a thing.
- I don't know if you are supposed to compare gains by comparing the two max readings or at specific points.

Overall... the car obviously made gains. It pulls much harder and feels good. But here's the thing...

Are the gains here worth NOT having all of the features of a pro-tuned Cobb AP? I don't know... yet.

Randy is up next.

 


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I definitely think a pro tune would be beneficial, if nothing else to smooth out the curves. Looks like they start getting a bit rough mid range. I want a ride when you get it done!
 


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I definitely think a pro tune would be beneficial, if nothing else to smooth out the curves. Looks like they start getting a bit rough mid range. I want a ride when you get it done!
Not an option with the Livernois.

Definitely getting the pro tune (e-tune) with the Cobb though.
 


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I WON ? LOL I just did this today at work. i had 2 free minutes to look at the forum
 


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did someone chime in [MENTION=1914]TaylorFade[/MENTION] ?

I think youll like the Cobb AP.
 


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did someone chime in [MENTION=1914]TaylorFade[/MENTION] ?

I think youll like the Cobb AP.
No vendors chimed in, but I'll hook you up with a little something with Boomba if that's your vendor of choice.

And yeah... I'm hoping so. Today on the dyno... it really annoyed me that I couldn't monitor boost. All of the other features are basically impossible to ignore as well. I told myself that if I gained +60tq, I wouldn't even bother. But... I didn't.

And I don't want to start a shitstorm about it, but I swear I can hear *some*thing that sounds suspiciously like 'pinging' coming from under the hood. If I had an AP... I could see shit like that. I'm overly paranoid to be modding what's basically still a brand new car as it is so I'd like to be able to see what's going on. Sure... I can add gauges, but that adds to the already higher cost of the Livernois.

I dunno. We'll see.
 


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Thanks for getting the run files to us! We looked at these runs, but how they were saved there is no data associated with them. Meaning we don't know when these runs were actually made.

So I can't determine the amount of cool down time associated with them.

However, The very first pull (which was in the wrong gear) made good power up top, showing a gain for what we would call typical over stock. The power was down on the subsequent runs as it was likely hot.

But since we don't have the time of the dyno runs, we can't tell much.

We think that if the 1st run was made in the correct gear @ around 2000 RPM you would have picked up the extra 8WHP and 20WTQ matching our testing.
 


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Thanks for getting the run files to us! We looked at these runs, but how they were saved there is no data associated with them. Meaning we don't know when these runs were actually made.

So I can't determine the amount of cool down time associated with them.

However, The very first pull (which was in the wrong gear) made good power up top, showing a gain for what we would call typical over stock. The power was down on the subsequent runs as it was likely hot.

But since we don't have the time of the dyno runs, we can't tell much.

We think that if the 1st run was made in the correct gear @ around 2000 RPM you would have picked up the extra 8WHP and 20WTQ matching our testing.

Thanks for chiming in. Yeah... As I mentioned, the dyno operator is used to Honda. I doubt he's seen peak torque at 2,700 rpm before. And I forgot to mention the 4th gear thing until after the first pull.

I wasn't timing it, but I bet all four tuned runs were within 30 minutes. Which is why I mentioned heat soak in the post with the chart. But to be fair... The baseline was the last run. And the only cool down it got was the time it took me to flash back to stock.

How much cool down time do I need to keep things fair and even? The next time I go, I will have (3) data points.
 


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With any car doing power pulls there should first be a fan blowing on it at all times. Then normally we would make a pull wait 30 or so with the fan going and then pull again.
 


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