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P0012, P0014, and P0330 after engine and turbo overhaul

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So it has been 5 months in the making. Finally got the engine put in and everything. These are the codes I'm getting. I do think these codes could be caused by the viscosity of the oil I am using though. I am currently using motul 10w 40 mineral break in oil. Also, could very well be bad camshaft sensors. Could use some help though.
 


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First recheck all of your engine wiring connections.
You may have one harness connection not plugged in correctly.
 


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I went over the engine 3 times. I did forget things at first but it's all been corrected now. My concern is before I even pulled the engine the last codes I got were these same codes. It started knocking on a few cylinders then it three the codes on the cams and pulled power. I think it may be my position sensors but the car only had 21k miles on it.

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If you're telling me you had those exact same codes on the engine you blew up I would replace the sensors.



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A simple fault may be that your cam belt is off one tooth.
 


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If you're telling me you had those exact same codes on the engine you blew up I would replace the sensors.



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See that's what I'm thinking too but would it be the vvt sensors or would it be the position sensors or could it be all of them

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See that's what I'm thinking too but would it be the vvt sensors or would it be the position sensors or could it be all of them

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Did the new engine come with new VVT sensors?
If not I would say your vvt technically solenoids not sensors are bad. It is their job to adjust the cam timing by oil flow.

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Sensors don't usually fail in groups.
 


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Did the new engine come with new VVT sensors?
If not I would say your vvt technically solenoids not sensors are bad. It is their job to adjust the cam timing by oil flow.

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Yeah then it would be the solenoids. And no the crate didn't come with new ones. I may check it with 12v power tomorrow.

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Yeah then it would be the solenoids. And no the crate didn't come with new ones. I may check it with 12v power tomorrow.

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My concern is oil flows through them and they help control the cam timing. Your engine blew up or maybe before your engine blew up they got some type of garbage in them and they are not able to work properly.
I could be totally wrong but I hope I'm right because they are not that expensive.
The cam phasers are dependent on the solenoids working correctly.

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My concern is oil flows through them and they help control the cam timing. Your engine blew up or maybe before your engine blew up they got some type of garbage in them and they are not able to work properly.
I could be totally wrong but I hope I'm right because they are not that expensive.
The cam phasers are dependent on the solenoids working correctly.

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Yeah. When my engine exploded last I thought my timing belt jumped but the likely hood of 2 engines experiencing the same jump is practically 0 which points me to those solenoids. I'm gonna order some from Amazon. They should be here by Monday. I'm just surprised they failed so early in the life of the car.

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Well I hope it works for you. I totally agree with you chances are basically zero. I can't imagine as much as that engine cost they didn't perfectly time the cams from the factory.

It is possible during the process of your engine killing itself that metal shavings got into the solenoids making them useless.
I don't know but it makes sense and I really hope this fixes your problem.
The problems with variable valve timing solenoids are a lot more common than you would think. So it's definitely possible they were not working correctly.


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Be advised that most crate engines are supplied by third party vendors.
I bought one before direst from Ford and found this out.
The problem I found at that time is that the rings were installed up side down.
So, a belt off a tooth would not surprise me at all.
 


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Be advised that most crate engines are supplied by third party vendors.
I bought one before direst from Ford and found this out.
The problem I found at that time is that the rings were installed up side down.
So, a belt off a tooth would not surprise me at all.
Wow that Sucks.
The reason I believe it could be the solenoids 2 engines in a row same code, and VVT solenoids are known to cause that code.



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I just have always thought testing was cheaper than replacing.
Belt timing is easy to check and it is free.
In addition, our engine is as interference type so, a belt being misaligned could be potentially catastrophic.
 


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I just have always thought testing was cheaper than replacing.
Belt timing is easy to check and it is free.
In addition, our engine is as interference type so, a belt being misaligned could be potentially catastrophic.
Mountune purchases their crates directly from Ford. Also I agree testing and checking are free but I'm pretty certain I have the part nailed down and if not it was only 32 dollars for both on prime.

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If someone did want to check for free those solenoids can be removed and have 12 volts supplied to them. You can run a cleaner through them to clean out the crap and see if they are moving with 12 volts.

Lots of videos out there with people having issues with VVT solenoids. Mostly on the Ford 5.4 that had big issues with the cam phasers.

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Found a few specks on the intake side but nothing extreme


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So I am going to go ahead and do what was suggested and check every connector until the parts get here tomorrow. I am cleaning everything but nothing seems to be the source of the problem. There was a post from a guy on here though from China who had a very similar issue and his ecu was bad. I hope that's not my problem.

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Check your phasers. Mine loosened up when I was working on my car. Not sure what caused it but what you’re describing is what happened to me.
 




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