Post your datazap datalogs !!

[dyn085]

That definitely was a ton of words and, not surprisingly, not related to datalogging whatsoever.

 

[RAAMaudio]

"That definitely was a ton of words and, not surprisingly, not related to datalogging whatsoever."

Oh damn!

Then the powers that be can delete it if they wish since it was not strictly about data logging, instead covered areas why weight is more important than some may realize

 

[iso100]

There's no way that 7 pounds extra on the front of the car makes any measurable difference while braking. You have far more variability just in fuel level since a gallon of gasoline is 6.6 pounds or so.

 

[dyn085]

"That definitely was a ton of words and, not surprisingly, not related to datalogging whatsoever."

Oh damn!

Then the powers that be can delete it if they wish since it was not strictly about data logging, instead covered areas why weight is more important than some may realize

Weight, to the degree of ounces that you're taking it to, is definitely not as important to datalogging as you may want to think. It probably adds up for a pro-driver doing 50 laps at a race event, but for the sake of the average member doing a third/fourth gear pull it won't. What is important about weight, in regards to datalogging, is that someone keeps their vehicle relatively close for comparison purposes. If you have an extra pencil or three laying on the passenger floorboard that's fine, but you probably shouldn't compare a log with no fuel or passengers against one where you loaded up the car for a weekend trip with the family. It's pretty simple, actually.

 

[koozy]

based on the data presented and all things being considered.... ATP GT/GTX > EFR.

 

[RAAMaudio]

I love modding cars, I love living fully, sorry some just spend most of their time pretending and you know who you are

 

[Hijinx]

based on the data presented and all things being considered.... ATP GT/GTX > EFR.

I thought the data shows the EFR in favor by spooling sooner and touting a wider powerband?

 

[koozy]

I thought the data shows the EFR in favor by spooling sooner and touting a wider powerband?

yes and that's ok, all things considered if I were to purchase one at this moment I'd go with ATP GT/GTX. The ATP kit is just more attractive to me.

 

[RAAMaudio]

We are on the cusp of finding out which is the ultimate solution but it will be different for some, depending on the ultimate goals, we are not able to pick a winner or winners just yet but getting much closer

 

[dyn085]

I love modding cars, I love living fully, sorry some just spend most of their time pretending and you know who you are

Wow, what a brilliant response. I'm sure you realize that the rest of us are talking about legitimate and datalog-measurable data/issues as opposed to telling stories and making weak attempts at insults. That should make it pretty evident as to who the pretender is, but I'm pretty sure you still won't understand.

If you don't have any data or something legitimately datalogging-related, why are you even posting in here?

 

[Hijinx]

yes and that's ok, all things considered if I were to purchase one at this moment I'd go with ATP GT/GTX. The ATP kit is just more attractive to me.

Ah... The money. Understood.

 

[Siestarider]

Back to data, I logged about half my sessions at Sebring. Looks like around 8000 lines in Excel/log, and I have no idea how to present that much data in zap.

So, I scrolled through it. Cobb IC ran CAI low of 90F and high of 104F over 25 minute session. Looks like IC temps varied about 5 degrees within each lap, and gradually went up over the session to peak temp on back straight last hot lap, but delta T 5 degrees/lap remained about the same. Highest intake air temps were in 5th gear at 5000 rpm just after dumping throttle for turn 17. Highest boost near 22 psi at 4000 rpm.

Unfortunately I did not record ambient temps to compare, but this log was a late am session so it was getting hotter.

So I checked a 20 min PBIR log for same data, looks like delta T/lap runs about 8 degrees there, highest temp 97F 5th gear 5400 rpm dump on back straight. Either PBIR has a longer straight or Turn 17 at Sebring is scary, or both.

Anyway, I consider this very good performance and whatever improvement the new J-line sitting in my garage could offer probably not worth the weight penalty for me.

 

[dyn085]

I also need to add a correction that was pointed out to me the other day-I was wrong about the J-line and for whatever reason had confused it in place of the Airtec. There's no point in me editing that into all the places, just know that the Airtec is what currently out-cools the Cobb. Not that others don't/won't, just waiting on more data.
[MENTION=1391]Siestarider[/MENTION]-Datazap can show that much info, but it's frustrating to look at/deal with and most of the time I just prune the logs based on whatever data I'm trying to isolate. I took a 13k line Torque log down to about 100 lines the other day for another member to outline some concepts for collecting his data.

 

[Sourskittle]

So I checked a 20 min PBIR log for same data, looks like delta T/lap runs about 8 degrees there, highest temp 97F 5th gear 5400 rpm dump on back straight. Either PBIR has a longer straight or Turn 17 at Sebring is scary, or

No... Its scary, lol. My G35 coupe would only do 118-119mph on that straight. The vipers I rode in did about 165-167mph, and the carbon ceramic braked SLS AMG did like 163mph but went deeper. Takes a ton of laps in fast cars to have the balls to dive bomb that corner at higher speeds and then you still have to be ready for that hump/bump after sunset bend before the smaller straight. Things like that are why I love Sebring. Of course it would be easier to go faster if you could see around that corner and it didn't have a double apex+ bump corner afterwords, but what's the fun it that?

 

[Siestarider]

10-4 dyno, I was surprised how stable the Cobb IC temps were on hot laps, 100% throttle every opportunity every gear. Not a whole lot of improvement available when total CAI delta T is 5 degrees/lap. Stock turbo only of course.

SS knows the track. I am laughing and re-visualizing Turn 17 at same time. You did not mention clipping the right wall braking blind entry ("100% throttle in 5th,brake, shift, throttle brake apex, shift throttle apex, unwind") bump drifting and trying to hit the imaginary first apex in a sea of concrete before the bridge, and looking for the second one past bridge with nads up around my chin and blurry vision...its worth the trip for that turn alone.

 

[Sourskittle]

My G35 was slow enough for me to handle. The vipers were smooth as was the SLS amg. The car that has hurt me, and scared me the most was a 1990 M3 on slicks. Fully gutted. Built NA motor. And an old guy named Mel. Really about scared me to death. It only did like 125mph on the straight ( which we'd get passed on ), but by the next 4 turns, we'd be making the position back up. Sebring is a "brakes" track to me because that car was not crazy fast but it passed about every type of car I could imagine, including 911's. The viper race cars are insane there.

 

[RAAMaudio]

Imagine the 2300 lb, huge aero work, tubular suspension, fat race tires all around, 500HP LS powered(just heads and cam away from 600HP) 95 M3 I was building and almost finished before I realized what a monster it would of been and likely eat me so I parted it out and am building the FiST instead.

Sorry no data logs on the EFR DHM turbo system yet, been rather ill, hopefully I can get back to the install tomorrow.

 

[dyn085]

Words, words, words...

I have lots of logs with the J-Line, Cyborg, 3" DP and exhaust and the best real CAI there is I will send some but have to dig through to find the best ones.

More words...

I was revisiting this thread and came across this statement and wondered exactly what data that you had to support the bolded section. I can't honestly ever recall seeing a single datalog from you (not to say that you haven't, just that I don't recall you ever posting any to prove any of your outlandish statements/stories) let alone any intake before/after comparisons that would qualify it.

Also, someone should not have to 'dig through to find the very best' logs if they have a consistent setup and datalogging procedure.

 

[RAAMaudio]

All taken care of, will get back to this

 

[RAAMaudio]

As above.

For some reason I could not see a members posts, I thought he set it up, not so, I did not do it, it has been fixed, thanks