Pro Alloy Motorsport Fiesta ST intercooler

[FocusMike]

I know these won't fit our cars but they look so good.
http://www.proalloy.co.uk/cgi-bin/sitewise.pl?act=det&pt=&p=1342&id=proalloy

 

[_RED_]

Even if they could fit the usdm fiesta, what would be the point?

 

[Sourskittle]

Which is why I've been begging everyone with a welder to build an aftermarket 5-mph bumper for us...

 

[FocusMike]

Even if they could fit the usdm fiesta, what would be the point?

Sorry I don't understand your question. I've always thought that taller intercoolers are supposed to be more efficient than thicker ones. My only concern is how this will affect the radiator's cooling ability.

 

[_RED_]

That was my question, what's the point of a taller intercooler over options we have now. I'm new to the world of turbos, since this is my first.

 

[chalituna]

I believe that the thinner, taller intercooler would be more efficient over thicker, shorter intercooler because more of the surface is exposed to wind. Although, I'm not too certain if that big of an intercooler is necessary on our Fiesta. Bit of an overkill in my opinion.

 

[chalituna]

Also not to mention, this set up will remove or modify the bumper beam which will make the car extremely vulnerable on a front end collision. In some cases, when the insurance find out that the front beam has been modified/removed, it can void the warranty claim.

 

[Sourskittle]

Cx racing makes one that is the best of both worlds. 1/2 is 4" thick, the other half is 1 7/8" thick at the top. It was originally ment for the IS300.

I'm normally all about speed, but... I'd make the exception here, lol.

 

[Sourskittle]

http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchan...ct_Code=BRK-IS300-IC0083&Category_Code=IC40CO

 

[vlaST]

I have this intercooler installed, and from what i've seen from Forscan logs(IAT, CAT) it looks like its performing great. At 260whp now, it has no issues with getting CAT down to ambient.
Also looks like it has no problem with maintaining pressure with the gtx2860.
When i log the pressure before and after ETC, Turbo pressure is 1.9bar, and MAP is 1.3 bar, because Trottle Commanded is at 40%, but that's probably how they created stage4 to maintain 1.3 bar.
You think i would see less throttle closure if i adjusted the wategate rod?
I compared the wastegate stock turbo and gtx2860, difference was huge, stock opens at 0.25bar, gtx at 1.1bar.

 

[Sourskittle]

Your getting throttle closures because the load your seeing is likely higher than what its set at in the throttle table " load/throttle, throttle/load".

My car did this forever without me knowing it.

Since I assume your in Europe, you can't just use the cobb software to change the tables, but i would assume your tuner can ( I hope ). Throttle closures are not the best way to control boost, and be warned that fixing the throttle closing issue, will mean far great boost since the throttle is no longer closing to lower the boost/load. What ever your using for boost control/mapping should be turned down before you make the first pull with the throttle issue fixed.

 

[vlaST]

You probably right about the thottle closure, i'm also logging load and it stays at a certain level, while throttle and rpm is increasing.
In europe i think they are using WinOls, http://www.tuningfiles.com/winols-501.html, but that is only for map editing.
I haven't seen a complete product like ATR unfortunately, been searching for a while but no luck.
It would be really useful to log timing corr., but not possible with forscan at the moment, i even did a scan of my car with a program
forscan sent me, but it could not find the PID for knock or timing corr.

 

[Sourskittle]

Man... That's tough... Ign corrections are the first things i look at for every log.

 

[razorlab]

You probably right about the thottle closure, i'm also logging load and it stays at a certain level, while throttle and rpm is increasing.
In europe i think they are using WinOls, http://www.tuningfiles.com/winols-501.html, but that is only for map editing.
I haven't seen a complete product like ATR unfortunately, been searching for a while but no luck.
It would be really useful to log timing corr., but not possible with forscan at the moment, i even did a scan of my car with a program
forscan sent me, but it could not find the PID for knock or timing corr.

Load doesn't increase 1:1 with RPM. It is more a plot of the current VE of the engine.

 

[vlaST]

I looked at the log again, load was not as level as i remembered, it is slightly decreasing with increasing rpm. makes sense?
The PID i'm logging is called LOAD_ABSL%. Value is around 200.

 

[vlaST]

Man... That's tough... Ign corrections are the first things i look at for every log.

Yes it is, but i can log total timing, is there a way to spot false knock by looking at total timing, maybe i would see a dip in the curve.
Just install CPE RMM and want to check if it would cause false knock.