Streets of Willow 5/29/16 Stock cooling maxed out

[Siestarider]

Regarding getting folks to track their Fiesta's, there are several good threads on how to start. The reason to start is these cars cannot be fully explored on the street. Not that any modern car can, but these are so rewarding to push on track, it feels that is what they are designed for.

Although using better brake fluid is the main one, I did not start with that. I just went to track totally stock. No brake problems as long as ESC is off. If car gets too hot, turn the heater on. No need for all the goodies.

I am astonished at how much better a driver I have become in 15 months of tracking. And that the car is still a better track car than I am a driver.

Saturday a fellow driving a $100k Mercedes commented he was surprised the Fist was that quick. I pointed a 430 Ferrari Challenge by on back straight, he did not catch me in the twisties. Nice guy, we ate lunch together. Another guy had a full race MR2, slicks and all. I could only catch him on the straights.

Too many vignettes to recount, it all adds up to a blast every track day.

 

[Perfblue15]

Many I really wish I could have joined you. I'm dying to see how my car stacks up against other ST's now that I'm basically done modding for this season and ready to get some track time in.

Next time you will have to get a thread going so some of us can join you. I would love to compete with a fellow st or 2.


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[FloresRacing]

After seeing some of the vidoes seems like you where letting off the gas a bit early on some of the turn. Like in turn one you should of been able to go without lifting like I was, it's a bit scary cause it's a fast turn then having to step on te brakes the car pushes you almost off the track. Also on the shikane you where also letting off the gas a bit to early as well. I'm sure with more track days you will get more comfortable driving the car and should be able to go faster. My scion has taught me a lot because it's not easy car to handle it like the fiesta is.

 

[Siestarider]

Many I really wish I could have joined you. I'm dying to see how my car stacks up against other ST's now that I'm basically done modding for this season and ready to get some track time in.

Next time you will have to get a thread going so some of us can join you. I would love to compete with a fellow st or 2.


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I have not scheduled next track day yet, getting too hot down here to enjoy it next three months. Plus I am getting an itch to try Roebling or Road Atlanta next, takes more planning to go that far out of town. Maybe the Tracking branch of the forum could host a track schedule by location and organization to make it easier to join with other owners, or even a sticky for folks booking days to report where and when so its easier for others to join them.

I have only tracked with one other Fist, as I recall it was in the rain at PBIR last year. He had more mods than I, and a cute girlfriend. Before I began using Harry lap timer, had no idea what times I was running, only saw him once on track as I was pitting, then he left early.

 

[Pete]

After seeing some of the vidoes seems like you where letting off the gas a bit early on some of the turn. Like in turn one you should of been able to go without lifting like I was, it's a bit scary cause it's a fast turn then having to step on te brakes the car pushes you almost off the track. Also on the shikane you where also letting off the gas a bit to early as well. I'm sure with more track days you will get more comfortable driving the car and should be able to go faster. My scion has taught me a lot because it's not easy car to handle it like the fiesta is.

Thank you I really appreciate the input. That was only my third time at streets of willow and second time going clockwise. Yeah that turn 1 I feel like sometimes i would let off and I think once or twice I may have pushed it through there on my last run in semi advance. Going through the back straight I am still trying to figure out where to brake. As I'm trying to go WoT through the chicane/shikane? (Not sure on spelling) I did a light brake after and then a full brake before the hard left. I could probably use some coaching or better yet sit in the passenger seat while someone with experience shows me in my car.

 

[FloresRacing]

Thank you I really appreciate the input. That was only my third time at streets of willow and second time going clockwise. Yeah that turn 1 I feel like sometimes i would let off and I think once or twice I may have pushed it through there on my last run in semi advance. Going through the back straight I am still trying to figure out where to brake. As I'm trying to go WoT through the chicane/shikane? (Not sure on spelling) I did a light brake after and then a full brake before the hard left. I could probably use some coaching or better yet sit in the passenger seat while someone with experience shows me in my car.

I can sure help you out if you like, now im not sure if ill make it to the next event. I dont want to take the fiesta to buttonwillow, I need my tires to last me a while and save up some money so that I can retune my race car and achieve 400+whp

 

[Pete]

I can sure help you out if you like, now im not sure if ill make it to the next event. I dont want to take the fiesta to buttonwillow, I need my tires to last me a while and save up some money so that I can retune my race car and achieve 400+whp

That would be awesome! Ill make sure to leave the passenger seat in next time. Geez you really are going big haha. At what point do you get put in the unlimited class? Also I may or may not go either as I want to get my cooling issues addressed for the summer heat.

 

[FloresRacing]

That would be awesome! Ill make sure to leave the passenger seat in next time. Geez you really are going big haha. At what point do you get put in the unlimited class? Also I may or may not go either as I want to get my cooling issues addressed for the summer heat.

Well until i have full slicks then I will be unlimited, engine wise you can do whatever you want in modified class or if i remove front dash that will also put me in unlimited

 

[Pete]

Well until i have full slicks then I will be unlimited, engine wise you can do whatever you want in modified class or if i remove front dash that will also put me in unlimited

What about catbon fiber panels? Not something I'm considering now as I can spend my money better with more track time. But curious is all.

 

[FloresRacing]

What about catbon fiber panels? Not something I'm considering now as I can spend my money better with more track time. But curious is all.

carbon fiber is fine with hood, hatch, doors anything else, you can also ahve all lexan windows except the front window, I plan to remove all my top glass from the race car and put lexan soon.

 

[Pete]

Bump! All videos uploaded and are posted on post #3

 

[Howie]

Nice post. I'm curious about your car and the rules of the groups that you track with. You've spent a great deal of time and money on your car and I have a question about the weight reduction. You keep both the stock front seats, am I correct? They weigh about 40lbs each, if I'm correct. A fixed CF Recaro seat (pricey, to be sure) weighs about 10lbs. Is replacing both front seats with just a single seat allowed?

 

[Howie]

Oh, I forgot. You mentioned that temps were about 94F. Where was that measured? Usually ambient is measured in the shade, so in the sun, out on the track, temps would be about 10F higher but, with enormous radiated heat from the track surface, I think temperatures would have been 120-130F - maybe 135F. That's tough for any car's cooling system.

 

[Pete]

Nice post. I'm curious about your car and the rules of the groups that you track with. You've spent a great deal of time and money on your car and I have a question about the weight reduction. You keep both the stock front seats, am I correct? They weigh about 40lbs each, if I'm correct. A fixed CF Recaro seat (pricey, to be sure) weighs about 10lbs. Is replacing both front seats with just a single seat allowed?

For street class all the interior has to be in and you have to use at least a 200 tread wear rating tire. In modified you cam replace the seats with a racing seat but then you need a proper 5 point harness to run it. Also the tire can be down to a 60 tread wear rating. For my event I had removed the passenger seat and was running just the stock recaro drivers seat (still pretty heavy). Also I modified you are allowed to upgrade your turbo if you so wish and gut the car up to the dash. You have tovleave the dash alone but everything else can go. As for track temps it was recorded in the pits from the car once I got on the grid. I'm sure the track temp was even hotter and the poor little radiator we have could not keep up.

 

[FloresRacing]

To add, for street class you can remove all back interior but must keep front seat. You can also upgrade turbo since you can fit a big turbo in their. You can do a lot in street class. For modified class you can almost go all out.