XS Class

[Pablo Pistoffo]

I would be very interested in the PAX numbers for this class.
https://www.scca.com/articles/20133...eBT0R2QpqdL1HuyrWOZSyAhRAMGw0VTrn28kdrjcJpB2E

 

[Rexracer]

I would be very interested in the PAX numbers for this class.
https://www.scca.com/articles/20133...eBT0R2QpqdL1HuyrWOZSyAhRAMGw0VTrn28kdrjcJpB2E

Im guessing somewhere around CAM-C or CAM-S, so .818 to .831 since that is what this class is modeled off of, just import side vs domestic side.

 

[CSM]

Should I do SMF or XS for 2020? Car is set up and ready to go and I plan to do a lot of events in 2020.

I've been out of the Autox game since 2005-2007 when I was competitive in C-Stock with my 99 miata

 

[JDG]

Should I do SMF or XS for 2020? Car is set up and ready to go and I plan to do a lot of events in 2020.

I've been out of the Autox game since 2005-2007 when I was competitive in C-Stock with my 99 miata

As someone who is running SMF (not really competitively), I imagine the PAX for XS will be more beneficial since you are limited to 200TW or higher tires. So if you don't already have some Hoosiers or something crazy, XS will be the way to go.. I will likely be going this route this year as well for when I do compete.

 

[texaspaul]

Looks like they’re out now.

XS-A: 0.844
XS-B: 0.864

yikes!

 

[Rexracer]

Looks like they’re out now.

XS-A: 0.844
XS-B: 0.864

yikes!

Lol, thats crazy.

 

[JDG]

Looks like they’re out now.

XS-A: 0.844
XS-B: 0.864

yikes!

WTF! I am an idiot or is this asinine? Isn't PAX for SMF .841? Why would this have a worse PAX?

 

[Rexracer]

WTF! I am an idiot or this asinine? Isn't PAX for SMF .841?

"Ok we are making a CAM class for Forign cars, so PAX should be close to the same" "No the Mustang guys will freak out if they get beat by a Mita with an LS dropped in it, we better make sure its impossiable for an XS to win" "Good Point, .841 it is!"

 

[texaspaul]

WTF! I am an idiot or is this asinine? Isn't PAX for SMF .841? Why would this have a worse PAX?

It's absolutely ridiculous. Locally we have a thriving Tire Pax, so it really won't make sense for anyone to compete in these new classes until they fix this.

 

[JDG]

It's absolutely ridiculous. Locally we have a thriving Tire Pax, so it really won't make sense for anyone to compete in these new classes until they fix this.

What's a "Tire PAX"? Sorry I am still a bit clueless.

 

[texaspaul]

What's a "Tire PAX"? Sorry I am still a bit clueless.

Basically they take all the classes that run race tires, allow them to run 200TW tires, and they all get PAXed against each other using their standard PAX. Helps them lower costs to run locally.

Think of it like novice class, they're all competing against each other with PAX, but not really competitive with being "PAXed" across the entire field.

 

[CSM]

WTF! I am an idiot or is this asinine? Isn't PAX for SMF .841? Why would this have a worse PAX?

I was talking to a friend in Charlotte who attended a regional SCCA update meeting. They intentionally made the PAX worse because they have no body of evidence for the new classes. They plan on refining the PAX over the next few years as data comes in

 

[JDG]

I was talking to a friend in Charlotte who attended a regional SCCA update meeting. They intentionally made the PAX worse because they have no body of evidence for the new classes. They plan on refining the PAX over the next few years as data comes in

That's unfortunate but it aligns with how seriously people take Auto-X. Part of the reason I stopped going to most events and started rallycrossing instead. The crowd at Rally-X is so much friendly and nicer to be around. Competition is still good without being overly competitive.

 

[Pablo Pistoffo]

That's unfortunate but it aligns with how seriously people take Auto-X. Part of the reason I stopped going to most events and started rallycrossing instead. The crowd at Rally-X is so much friendly and nicer to be around. Competition is still good without being overly competitive.

Yeah, it seems kind of weird for them to make this choice, as it was supposed to be a way to encourage more modified cars to come play. As much as I was looking forward to getting a Whoosh hybrid or a S280, there's no way I'd be competitive up here because we don't "do" car classes- everything is based off of PAX because there are rarely more than 2-3 cars in any one car class.