Needed to replace pads and rotors after first track day

[zeddzik]

Hey everyone so I went to my first track day with my 5k mile FiST Saturday at GingerMan Raceway and it was honestly the most fun I've had in a while! The only problem is that by the time my last session was over I noticed a lot of vibration and squeaking when I pressed on the brakes. When I got home, I found my rotors we're completely gouged and destroyed.
And here's what my pads look like:
Also, the powder coat was burned off the front of the calipers:

After this I installed some new centric rotors and hawk pads and I'm planning on getting some track only pads.

I'm honestly shocked by how fast the stock pads wore down in track conditions! So I need a bit of help, what should I do to prevent something like this from happening again? Am I braking too hard or we're the pads just not meant to take anywhere near the kind of heat 4 session on the track can put through them?

 

[green_henry]

Wow, that's definitely extreme wear. I tracked at least 9 sessions at Thunderhill and still had a few mils left before I switched mine out for Carbotechs. Did you disengage the ESC? This is a must on the track!

 

[zeddzik]

Wow, that's definitely extreme wear. I tracked at least 9 sessions at Thunderhill and still had a few mils left before I switched mine out for Carbotechs. Did you disengage the ESC? This is a must on the track!

So I disengaged the ecs by holding the button down until it disengages and the light on the dash was on but I did this while the car was moving. Could this have something to do with it? I feel like I may have felt it kicking in a couple times during a couple turns.

 

[green_henry]

So I disengaged the ecs by holding the button down until it disengages and the light on the dash was on but I did this while the car was moving. Could this have something to do with it? I feel like I may have felt it kicking in a couple times during a couple turns.

If you push it once, you should see the idiot light near the bottom of the speedometer (Sport mode). If you hold it for a few seconds, you should see the aforementioned idiot light plus another hazard icon in the Sync console. As long as both icons are lit, I think you're good.

 

[TyphoonFiST]

Rockauto or Call Carbotech

Pads

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog...dohc,3308782,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684

Rotors

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog...ged+dohc,3308782,brake+&+wheel+hub,rotor,1896

 

[green_henry]

Also, makes me wonder if stainless steel brake lines help reduce wear ; it was one of the first mods I did before hitting the track (along with RL-600 brake fluid)

 

[PunkST]

Were those the factory summer, or all season pad?
Also there is a lot to be said for learing how to use as little brake as possible with these cars. Maybe its from my long time of racing with less than 150 hp in a similar sized car, but you really shouldnt be on the brakes that much. Even ecs all the way off torque vectoring is still active if im remembering right. Only solution there is to work on being super smooth with inputs to not upset the car.

 

[TyphoonFiST]

I didn't know they made pads depending on the Season/Time of year?

 

[zeddzik]

Were those the factory summer, or all season pad?
Also there is a lot to be said for learing how to use as little brake as possible with these cars. Maybe its from my long time of racing with less than 150 hp in a similar sized car, but you really shouldnt be on the brakes that much. Even ecs all the way off torque vectoring is still active if im remembering right. Only solution there is to work on being super smooth with inputs to not upset the car.

They were the all season pads so that's probably why they wore down so fast. I was definitely having fun finding the limits of the car and was not the smoothest driver on the track. I think focusing on being smooth and getting the line perfectly would definitely help instead of just chucking it around corners.

 

[PunkST]

I didn't know they made pads depending on the Season/Time of year?

It depends on the tire option when ordered. They optimized the compound to work with the tires.

 

[TyphoonFiST]

It depends on the tire option when ordered. They optimized the compound to work with the tires.

Hmmm...I had the summer time Pads with A/s tires according to my build by ford. Hmmm Interesting......

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[Joshyfresh6953]

here in SoCal, my 2018 came with the summer potenzas and I assume "summer" pads as someone mentioned above. Ive never hit the track per say but Ive hit the hilly canyon roads and Palomar Mountain S6 out here at least 30x and push the car pretty hard usually 20-30 mins at a time before driving at normal speeds for a few mins to cool things down... I've got 19k miles now, my tires are basically bald, 2-3/32", and I have about half of my pads left for reference.

 

[zeddzik]

I think torque vectoring might have been the issue as my rear pads still have some life left in them. I had a heavy right foot out of turns; especially the sweeping turns where I noticed a lot of under-steer. I think I may keep the rear rotors and pads stock for now and get some front track pads from carbotech, high temp brake fluid and upgrade my tires to firestone trackhawk indy 500s instead of my stock pilot sport a/s. Thoughts?

 

[Phishy]

Hmmm...I had the summer time Pads with A/s tires according to my build by ford. Hmmm Interesting......

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I have heard this multiple times now. I dont think the pad and tire pairing was 100% automatic.

 

[PunkST]

I have heard this multiple times now. I dont think the pad and tire pairing was 100% automatic.

im betting the human element in assembly probably screwed it up. Lol

 

[TyphoonFiST]

I'm betting they Ran out of Parts and said lets just put these on...they will work! No one will care ! Its Friday on the assembly line...Where's my Roadie/ Beer?

 

[PunkST]

#uaw. Lmao