My official Race Chip thread 2.0 -

[TalkToTheFiST]

I think that’s part of the reason a lot of people prefer a dizzy tune vs a stratified one, the power is a little more tractable. My stratified tune was fun but it was a tire destroyer. The dizzy one makes just as much power but in a more adult way. I still flip tunes on occasion but each time I go back to dizzy for daily duties. I’m wondering how much of your butt test (there has to be a better way of saying that) is more aggressive throttle mapping vs actual power. Remapping the throttle makes it feel like there’s a ton more power.

I have heard a few reports of this chip making the throttle more "sensitive", but im not so sure they are labeling it properly. Granted im no old hand at this but the company RaceChip also sells a throttle tuner they call the XLR, i wouldn't think they would risk their XLR sales by adding that kind of feature to their other chips.

I could definitely be wrong but my hunch is people are just feeling more low end tq. I can still tell there's turbo lag till somewhere around 2300-2500, but when it kicks in it hits like a truck now. But yea i do get you, a more linear curve makes the power come more gradually and less likely to out tq the tires.

 

[Clint Beastwood]

I've always been a bit confused about the Dizzytune. Do I just purchase the Stage 2 Tune and then he'll email me asking about my mods? Or is it just an OTS tune. If I wanted to get a 93 Octane, and E30 tune, would I have to get Dizzypop for both? I've never had an Accessport (and still don't) so trying to piece the whole system together is a little difficult.

You order the tune then fill out a form with your mods. He sends you a map and does a log review to make sure it’s safe.

It’s the lack of log data that makes me worried for our superchippy friend here.

 

[Spork1569]

You order the tune then fill out a form with your mods. He sends you a map and does a log review to make sure it’s safe.

It’s the lack of log data that makes me worried for our superchippy friend here.

Yep, this exactly. The data log you get basically let's Dizzy tell you if the car is running the tune efficiently and safely.

I think lots of people's worry is from the fact that you could have knock and negative corrections(very bad to have when you're pushing the car harder) with no way to monitor if these are occurring.

 

[jeffreylyon]

Dude if i could i so would. I'd take my car in tomorrow for a bigger FMIC, and i guess a downpipe as i hear people mention those help with bigger turbos? But my wife is responsible and forces me to budget ..... But i gotta say, i don't know how people keep the rubber on the road, this evening i was driving some common fun roads and my god, even through 2nd the tires were constantly slipping.

The stock tune reduces boost in 1st and 2nd. Your WünderChip fools the ECU into building more boost. Most of us have the boost reduction turned off in 1st and 2nd when we install a tune, so we're dealing with much more torque that you are.

There are lots of cars that'll break their tires loose under hard throttle in lower gears in a straight line and practically anything will spin a tire with too much throttle in a turn. Controlling that is a core driving skill.

 

[jeff]

The stock tune reduces boost in 1st and 2nd. Your WünderChip fools the ECU into building more boost. Most of us have the boost reduction turned off in 1st and 2nd when we install a tune, so we're dealing with much more torque that you are.

There are lots of cars that'll break their tires loose under hard throttle in lower gears in a straight line and practically anything will spin a tire with too much throttle in a turn. Controlling that is a core driving skill.

Well said.

Skill helps but the wonder of tuning makes a world of difference. In my opinion the biggest problem about our car is that in any power-modified form it has way more torque than traction. Dialing in traction control through the tune helps get as much power to the ground as possible resulting in actual acceleration instead of smoking tires.

To the OP, one thing you’ll come to grips with before long with your newfound torque is that you now have less traction and more torque steer, neither a good thing. Unless you want to roast your tires all the time, that is something to think about. Having all the new torque isn't much good if you can’t use it.

This is one great feature of being able to control traction. I made a video on this maybe a year ago, for anyone new to this idea maybe this will help:

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f0UzpTzeJgY

 

[OneFord]

@jeff

Yeah I just ordered one of JDG's default "off" stock ESC modules. I don't trust the stock traction control either.

I've been playing around with the COBB AP TC slip multiplier and it's funny I was using your video as a tutorial ha.

One thing I've noticed is running the Federals and my set-up is I can't always tell that the tires are slipping. Pretty sure @Clint Beastwood said he didn't even know he was roasting his tires until he put a camera on his fender lol

I should be getting a fresh tune from JST on Monday for some recent changes I made and I'm really gonna start focusing in the TC multiplier. Pretty sure JST has custom multipliers as well but like you said I just need to play around with the settings first and get a feel for it.

 

[jeff]

Omg the helicopter parenting continues

This website you are currently visiting is called a forum. It is a place where people share ideas. That is productive and helps others in contrast to your constant badgering and insults. But we’ve been through that before.

Let’s let the members vote one of us off the island. I dare you. Let’s make a poll and let them vote. If they vote me off I will never come back. If they vote you off you never come back. I dare you.

 

[MRX330]

This website you are currently visiting is called a forum. It is a place where people share ideas. That is productive and helps others in contrast to your constant badgering and insults. But we’ve been through that before.

Let’s let the members vote one of us off the island. I dare you. Let’s make a poll and let them vote. If they vote me off I will never come back. If they vote you off you never come back. I dare you.

You’re treating the OP like he’s inept and incapable of learning on his own. Before you knew anything did you need someone to incessantly explain everything? This is not rocket science.
This forum exists in America. It’s a representative democracy not an oligarchy which you and your rat commies would rather have so you could eject the ones you don’t approve of. The mob doesn’t rule here or in America although you try very hard to make it so.
PS: You can’t live vicariously through every new member

 

[jeff]

You’re treating the OP like he’s inept and incapable of learning on his own. Before you knew anything did you need someone to incessantly explain everything? This is not rocket science.
This forum exists in America. It’s a representative democracy not an oligarchy which you and your rat commies would rather have so you could eject the ones you don’t approve of. The mob doesn’t rule here or in America although you try very hard to make it so.
PS: You can’t live vicariously through every new member

Like I thought.

 

[MRX330]

Like I thought.

Childish narcissist

 

[jeff]

Childish narcissist

I love you man. Arguing is pointless. If you were in my town I’d love to hang out, see your car, and have a beer.

Let’s get back to the topic.

 

[TyphoonFiST]

Both of you settle down and I will give you cookies and juice boxes!

 

[MRX330]

I love you man. Arguing is pointless. If you were in my town I’d love to hang out, see your car, and have a beer.

Let’s get back to the topic.

“Now that I failed to have you fall into my commie trap, let’s get back on topic” LMFAO

 

[jeff]

“Now that I failed to have you fall into my commie trap, let’s get back on topic” LMFAO

Nothing of the sort man. I made my point and I don’t need to have the last word here in terms of us arguing. The only last word I would give would again be that i’m willing to look beyond all this, extend a hand of friendship to you, and celebrate our mutual love for cars.

 

[MRX330]

“Let’s let the members vote one of us off the island. I dare you. Let’s make a poll and let them vote. If they vote me off I will never come back. If they vote you off you never come back. I dare you.” Jeff
I won’t overlook your attempt at a drive by. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. This is what you do. I’ve come to expect it from you.

 

[OneFord]

I can't tell why Jeff has you guys so triggered.

 

[jeff]

I can't tell why Jeff has you guys so triggered.

Thanks man I appreciate the support here. Feel like I'm trying to extend goodwill here and it's continually rejected along with further attack.

Sorry to the OP that this went so far off topic. Looking forward to more thoughts on your product.

 

[MRX330]

Yes let’s forget about the fact that Jeff wants to kick members off the forum for challenging him 👍

 

[MRX330]

Thanks man I appreciate the support here. Feel like I'm trying to extend goodwill here and it's continually rejected along with further attack.

Sorry to the OP that this went so far off topic. Looking forward to more thoughts on your product.

LMAO All you did was shit on him in the most condescending of ways. Now you want to know more about the product. What a joke!

 

[OneFord]

Yes let’s forget about the fact that Jeff wants to kick members off the forum for challenging him 👍

Elaborate for us or did you forget to switch accounts again?