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The Déjà Vu Build

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I'm back. I couldn't stay away. Here you'll find my 2015 build:

https://www.fiestastforum.com/threads/powermatts-ill-do-more-some-day-build.17214

A couple weeks back after much soul searching on what I wanted in a car, I realized the answer had been staring me in the face ever since my '15 was totaled.

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Enter this fully loaded 2016. I already know it needs an intake and an exhaust. The intake I will probably do myself very soon (because what else am I going to do while stuck at home?). I'm not sure I'm going to 100% replicate the build of my 2015, as this needs to serve as my Winter car, and will likely be on all-season tires all the time. The Summer car is my 2019 Miata, which will never be burdened with non-sticky rubber. This isn't to say the Fiesta will never come out for fun in the Summer, so we'll see if I don't change my mind down the road.

Right now I'm just happy to be back where I belong. :)
 


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Thanks. I've been in Virginia about a year now, and I've been enjoying it. The fun roads might not be as close as they were in Cali, but I'll take that for the lower cost of living.
 


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Thanks. I've been in Virginia about a year now, and I've been enjoying it. The fun roads might not be as close as they were in Cali, but I'll take that for the lower cost of living.
You must not live in NoVA.....it's expensive up here. I was in VaBach for a decade too. That was nice. Too long ago, too long ago. I've never WANTED to get older, but damn, I want to retire, get the F out of here and move to NC.
 


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You must not live in NoVA.....it's expensive up here. I was in VaBach for a decade too. That was nice. Too long ago, too long ago. I've never WANTED to get older, but damn, I want to retire, get the F out of here and move to NC.
Eh, it's just in our nature to always want to roam. Also, everything's cheaper than than the Bay.
 


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Pulled the trigger on the Mishimoto intake. The pros and cons of this intake are known to me, and I do think I had finally sorted the fitment on my '15, so that's knowledge I can apply to get the same quality of aural experience that I had before. This I will be installing myself.

When I can figure out how to drop my car off without risking a random Lyft/Uber ride, I'm going to have a local performance shop install Cobb's cat-back system. And I'll be ordering an Accessport again fairly soon, as I've decided I at least want to put the car on a stage 1 tune.

I'll almost certainly do more down the road, but this is where I'm going to stop for now.
 


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I'm back. I couldn't stay away. Here you'll find my 2015 build:

https://www.fiestastforum.com/threads/powermatts-ill-do-more-some-day-build.17214

A couple weeks back after much soul searching on what I wanted in a car, I realized the answer had been staring me in the face ever since my '15 was totaled.

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Enter this fully loaded 2016. I already know it needs an intake and an exhaust. The intake I will probably do myself very soon (because what else am I going to do while stuck at home?). I'm not sure I'm going to 100% replicate the build of my 2015, as this needs to serve as my Winter car, and will likely be on all-season tires all the time. The Summer car is my 2019 Miata, which will never be burdened with non-sticky rubber. This isn't to say the Fiesta will never come out for fun in the Summer, so we'll see if I don't change my mind down the road.

Right now I'm just happy to be back where I belong. :)
Wow that’s a nice combo of vehicles. Beyond drivetrain layout how does the steering (quickness and feel)compare between the Fiesta and the Miata. Also is the power strong enough with the upgraded motor compared to the previous years? I would love to have the Miata as a second car.


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The ND has a very noticeably slower steering ratio, but it's no less precise. Kind of counter-intuitively, the Fiesta feels a lot more stable on the highway, while the ND feels a bit skittish. The ND is very tail-happy, but it's always on your terms, which is one of the best features of the platform. It's an incredible companion to the Fiesta. All the same lightweight, raw sensations... but different. Switching is always hilarious. The Fiesta feels like an angry bar stool after driving the Miata for a week. I'm never bored, though.

Can't say much about the power on the revised motor yet. It's not even at 300 miles yet, so I'm doing my best to break it in the proper way (another 300 miles to go according to Mazda). I have had it (accidentally) up above 5k RPM once, and there was definitely a noticeable bump in power. Which makes sense, peak horsepower is now at 7k RPM. It's still as relentlessly linear as every ND I've experienced, but there's just more of that power up top.

I think it's the perfect combo of cars, if you like small lightweight fun. You could maybe substitute a BRZ/86 in there for the Miata (especially if you don't fit in a Miata, or if a newer Miata is out of your budget), but I'm always going to be team Miata for two door fun.
 


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Intake's on, and no great surprise, it rubs on the plastic valve cover at the inside corner of the hard pipe. I had this exact same issue with my '15 when I first put it on, and I have no idea what the trick is to getting it right the first time. There may not be one; I finally think I got the fit right about three months later on my '15 after tweaking it at least once a month.

But that's irrelevant right now, because the noises are glorious.

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Pulled the trigger on an Accessport, as well as a set of Sparco Asetto Gara's in 16x7, with Indy 500's in 205/45. Ran this same set on my '15, and they were near perfect for a daily Summer tire. There's definitely nothing better for the money.

I had been planning to do an exhaust next, but getting a shop to install it has proven to be difficult. Putting that off for a few months down the road.
 


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May I ask what you've found to be the pros and cons of the mishimoto intake?
Biggest pro is the simplicity. No need for extra parts to work with the 2016+ evap lines, and no need to move anything. There are only four major pieces (silicone hose, hard pipe, air box, and filter) so the install is relatively simple. The second go around on this, I had the whole job done in under an hour. No CEL on the 2016, and no issues on my 2015 running Cobb's stage 2 OTS tune. It works, and it's easy to install. It also sounds great, without being obnoxious.

The biggest con is that it definitely could fit better. I gave my feedback to Mishimoto on this when I did the 2015 install, and their response was a nicely-worded "meh." The hard pipe needs a bit more length and angle to clear the valve cover (though technically it rubs on the coil support frame, not the actual valve cover). I'm really not sure why Mishimoto chose to tuck it in so tight to the cover when there's plenty of room behind that bend to push it out a bit. It's not ever going to be an major issue as far as I can tell, but it is kind of annoying to have the nice finish rubbed off immediately (I'm thinking Mishimoto never noticed because they tested with a polished version; it appears to be rubbing in their install video). Given I've now had this exact same issue on two cars of different years, I'm leaning towards this not being just a fluke of my old '15.
 


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AP came in yesterday. So nice to have all that responsive torque again below 3k RPM. Of course, now it wants to rip off the all-seasons pretty much all the time. Getting the tires first feels like it was the better choice anyway (should be here Tuesday).
 


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First thing I did with my 2019 was to order up some 16x7 wheels and tires to go on them. Next was the Mountune Induction kit which combines the intake kit with the intercooler kit. Also ordered up a Mountune radiator at the same time. After that I got on the Cobb web site and ordered a Rear Motor Mount and 2 1/2 inch catback exhaust. I had all that installed by mid June 2019, actuallly was rather easy. Also installed a dual horn set because the original horn was barely louder than a seat belt buzzer.

This year for the cars anniversary I'm thinking about a Cobb Accessport with a MR230 tune from Mountune. I also intend to get the Whoosh Symposer delete. If the budget permits may also get another set of 16x7 wheels to put some summer only tires on the FiST.
 


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First thing I did with my 2019 was to order up some 16x7 wheels and tires to go on them. Next was the Mountune Induction kit which combines the intake kit with the intercooler kit. Also ordered up a Mountune radiator at the same time. After that I got on the Cobb web site and ordered a Rear Motor Mount and 2 1/2 inch catback exhaust. I had all that installed by mid June 2019, actuallly was rather easy. Also installed a dual horn set because the original horn was barely louder than a seat belt buzzer.

This year for the cars anniversary I'm thinking about a Cobb Accessport with a MR230 tune from Mountune. I also intend to get the Whoosh Symposer delete. If the budget permits may also get another set of 16x7 wheels to put some summer only tires on the FiST.
I've been here before, so I should have figured wheels/tires would be the weak link as soon as I flashed it. But yeah, I'm going a fairly similar route. Might have some amateur help do get the exhaust done in a month or so. Then early next year I plan to do the front end work; intercooler, radiator, and a RMM. Then flash to stage 2. Which was where my '15 felt perfect as a daily, without really sacrificing much livability.
 


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ALL of the Sparco wheels look great on our rides, and the only reason I don't own a set is because of their cost (vs. Dekagrams, which I actually bought for far less $$$ than TR gets for these 'exclusives') and their WEIGHT (ditto for vs. the Dekagrams). [:(]
 


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ALL of the Sparco wheels look great on our rides, and the only reason I don't own a set is because of their cost (vs. Dekagrams, which I actually bought for far less $$$ than TR gets for these 'exclusives') and their WEIGHT (ditto for vs. the Dekagrams). [:(]
I thought about Dekagrams, but given the lack of tire options in that size and that I wasn't really looking to run a 200 treadwear Falken, I went for the Sparcos. They are still significantly lighter than the OEM wheels (17 lbs. vs 22), and the price seems justified. This is the second set of Sparcos I've bought, and like the first set they came perfectly balanced with very few wheel weights. I had a set of Motegi wheels on another car that each had probably a dozen weights on them, and they still weren't entirely balanced (and I had tried twice).
 


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The sparco pro corsa is my favorite wheel for this car. I will not be buying any wheels until it's paid off. That is the cars present when there's no more payment.

Nice to hear about the balancing.

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