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Greetings,
I'm looking at getting a flash tune and Stratified and Dizzytune look like good options. Just wondering if there are others worth considering or if one of these is recommended over the other? It looks like Stratified provides a map for 91 octane and a map for 93 octane which is nice since I'll be moving soon and I have no idea what will be available.

Hope everyone is doing well and please feel free to share your experiences with flash tunes.

Thanks!
 


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Cant go wrong with either tuner. I myself run a Stratified 91 tune and very happy with it.

I know Randy from Mountune used to write tunes (might be at a different place now).

Unleashed tunes as well, but its less common since they used the SCT tuner and maybe not the AccessPort.


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Cant go wrong with either tuner. I myself run a Stratified 91 tune and very happy with it.

I know Randy from Mountune used to write tunes (might be at a different place now).

Unleashed tunes as well, but its less common since they used the SCT tuner and maybe not the AccessPort.


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Sweet. Thanks for your input. Sounds like either one are good options.
 


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I went with Dizzy for my stock turbo tune. I got it with a promotion where he threw in a E30 tune. I went with Tune+ for my Whoosh Hybrid, but it's not installed yet.
 


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I went with Dizzy for my stock turbo tune. I got it with a promotion where he threw in a E30 tune. I went with Tune+ for my Whoosh Hybrid, but it's not installed yet.
Nice! I just added a Whoosh V3 intercooler. Looking forward to jumping right into stage 2.
 


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The stratified really is ā€œpunchyā€ like people describe. You sort of have to relearn how to drive if you want to be smooth. I actually ordered both upper mount inserts in order to try to smooth out shifts a little more. The first 5% of throttle input is much more than 5% on the stock tune giving that ā€œpunchyā€ feeling, even though I chose the ā€œlinearā€ option on their site. Ive found it more challenging to be ā€œsmoothā€ when driving at 3/10ths though the tune feels great at 7/10ths and above. Iā€™ve never used dizzys tune but am planning on Adam for the hybrid install though havenā€™t fully decided.
 


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The stratified really is ā€œpunchyā€ like people describe. You sort of have to relearn how to drive if you want to be smooth. I actually ordered both upper mount inserts in order to try to smooth out shifts a little more. The first 5% of throttle input is much more than 5% on the stock tune giving that ā€œpunchyā€ feeling, even though I chose the ā€œlinearā€ option on their site. Ive found it more challenging to be ā€œsmoothā€ when driving at 3/10ths though the tune feels great at 7/10ths and above. Iā€™ve never used dizzys tune but am planning on Adam for the hybrid install though havenā€™t fully decided.
I think I would prefer smooth over punchy.
 


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I've had both, and both are great tuners. In my opinion, Stratified is more "punchy" where as Dizzy is smoother.

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Good description. I like the Strat for bombing around town and Dizzy out on the road.
 


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I've used Dizzy, Stratified and Tuneplus. Can't go wrong for stock turbo, all the tuners are damn good. More differentiation when you start talking big turbo, aux fuel, bigger cams, etc.

If I were still on stock turbo however I would be looking hard at Monster's Adapt-X tune.
 


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I've got Mountune 93, Dizzy 93 and E30 and enjoy all three. For daily (suburban) driving, I prefer the power delivery of Mountune. Not to imply it's better than Dizzy... just a little less squirrelly with my wheel/tire setup. Country roads... Dizzy 93 and E30 is mandatory for track days.
 


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I find Tune+ E30 very smooth. I only have 1 other E30 to compare it too and that was a flash to be fair. Smooth nonetheless.
 


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I've used Dizzy, Stratified and Tuneplus. Can't go wrong for stock turbo, all the tuners are damn good. More differentiation when you start talking big turbo, aux fuel, bigger cams, etc.

If I were still on stock turbo however I would be looking hard at Monster's Adapt-X tune.
I was really looking at this but had pretty recently got the lifetime tune and was planning a hybrid eventually. Sounded very interesting.
 


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I've used Dizzy, Stratified and Tuneplus. Can't go wrong for stock turbo, all the tuners are damn good. More differentiation when you start talking big turbo, aux fuel, bigger cams, etc.

If I were still on stock turbo however I would be looking hard at Monster's Adapt-X tune.
I have a Stratified 93 tune which I never loaded into the AP, and it is now so old that I will go with either; Tunewerks (Randy), Dizzy 93, or the Monster Adapt-X once my power train warranty is up in December.

E85 is just too far away for me to even bother with having an E30 tune loaded, and Adam flat out refuses to tune a car which must run on Shell V-Power 93 most of the time, so Tune+ is out of the question for me. [:(]
 


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I've used a couple, I'll drop my thoughts below.

Cobb stage 0 - Look, the access port shows things!

Cobb stage 1 - I guess it did something? Sharpened stuff up, and felt a little increased beef. Nothing to write home about. Felt obviously aftermarket. Better than nothing, but stage 1 is total buttcheeks.

Cobb stage 2 - more of the above - a little more power, a little more aggressive. Even more obviously an aftermarket tune. It's like those free samples at costco - you try the stage 2 and now you want to see what a tune can *really* do for the car.

Stratified stage 2 - Makes pretty good power, gets a lot of negative corrections, costs me money in tires because the throttle is tuned so aggressively the tires spin easily, but the loss of traction is pretty progressive so I don't notice it as much. Front brake pads went pretty fast. Really likes one gallon e85 to a full tank of CA-91. Lots of fun, occasionally. Wouldn't want to run it all the time. Gets rid of rev hang which is really why I bought a tune. I found this tune "uncomfortable" because it was so aggressive. Not a bad tune, just not my cup of tea. Tried the pops tune, and the progressive pops tune. The pops tune was obnoxious and too much. The progressive pops tune was pretty cool, but ultimately a bit too much. I'd love a dash button to turn it on and off (the pops) on the fly, but that's not a thing. I liked the power and character, but the specific tuning I would describe as... vulgar. I wouldn't hand the keys to someone who hadn't driven the car with this tune without a warning to take it easy until they get used to how it responds.

Dizzy stage 2 - Seems to make similar power as the stratified, but the throttle tuning/mapping is *much* better for daily driving. Doesn't "kick" as much down low, but seems to pull better in the midrange and up top. I really liked how the dizzy wasn't so aggressive in terms of how the throttle pedal felt. It was less obviously an aftermarket tune than the cobb and stratified tunes, but you could still tell there was a non-stock feel about it. I was not a fan of the dizzy pop tunes. I never tried their burble tune, but from videos and descriptions it's probably what I'd have wanted. I went back to stock exhaust with a resonator delete, so I haven't bothered with an updated burble tune. Very daily drive-able without being obnoxious about it. If I was handing the keys to someone to drive the car, I'd mention "it's running a tune so it's making a bit more power than stock".

Adapt-x tune - It feels super-stock. In my seat of the pants opinion, feels significantly stronger than stock. Does not feel as "strong" as stratified or dizzy, but that wasn't the point. It's very safe, almost never get negative corrections. I would best describe the adapt-x tune as "super stock". Of note, getting the adapt-x tune to actually "learn" is kinda a pain in the ass. Very specific oil temp and other factors before it'll actually learn. Once school's out though, feels great. I think I could hand my car to a friend running this adapt-x tune and they'd simply say "wow ford made this fiesta a lot faster than I'd have thought", and that meshes with my desires. Very progressive and predictable. I know I've said it before, but "super stock" is exactly how it feels. Does not get grumpy when running shitty gas, it simply "adapts" without drama. I don't think it spins the tires as much as the other tunes, but it's honestly hard to tell in my FiST. When the tires spin, it does it progressively without drama or excess noise, but the tires are living a lot longer. (update-01282022 - I felt it was only fair to the vendor to go back and update the review with my ongoing experience. It did take longer overall for my car to "learn" initially, but I think that was a byproduct of always having freeway traffic so I couldn't do the requisite couple of pulls on the freeway, just ran out of room. It kept getting stronger and stronger, and does a good job of fairly quickly adapting to changes in fuel. Crappy fuel - it drops things down pretty quick. Great fuel, like a gallon of e85 in with a tank of normal stuff, and it learns that too, and you can feel it after a couple minutes on the freeway for it to figure things out. All in all, a great tune.)
 


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Thanks for your write-up! I'll look further into Adapt-x-tune. I'm liking the that it seems like a safe option. Also liking Dizzy over Stratified.
 


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