HID in stock headlight housing

[Etyrnus]

You don't really understand why it doesn't "seem" too bad do you? You put in a painted 8k bulb which puts out no light at all (compared to a proper HID bulb), so you have ~2400lumens to play with, which yes is an improvement over the ~1500lumen h11 halogen. Funnily enough, you could have spent $10 on some h9 bulbs and have the same 2400lumen output, so I don't think you really did much research beyond trying to find anything to support your wanting some blue lights.

If you put in a proper HID bulb with over 3000lumens you would have increased the intensity of all of the scatter/glare that you get from the OEM reflector and that is what is blinding and annoying.

The LEDs increase the glare as well, but again, they are pretty dim at only ~2500lumens as well, so it isn't as big a factor as a proper HID bulb. The colour temp of the h9 conversion makes it less annoying to other drivers so should be the only mod until you do a proper retrofit and are able to push more light.

Awaiting pics of blue light all up above the cutoff...

For perspective, the LEDs. Post 96. Can't speak for HIDs. http://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/threads/3665-The-Great-Quest-for-Headlights/page10

 

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For perspective, the LEDs. Post 96. Can't speak for HIDs.

Yeah, not a great location and no comparison to stock. Needs to be a fully dark area and a light coloured wall (and no foglights). Also nice to add a shot alongside the wall, like another pic I saw where there was a lot of scatter/glare to the sides, lit up the whole wall.

From that shot it appears the beam is very narrow with sharp fall off to the sides becoming quite dim and the hotspots are too tall creating the appearance of alot of foreground light. Without a comparison to stock it doesn't really matter though, because it could be exactly the same. Does look very narrow though... and what is making the sign light up...?

better off to save money a little longer, do a retrofit, and push 4500lumens controlled down the road. These just don't have much if any performance benefit from anything I've seen other than people thinking that they look better because they are whiter. The marginal increase in lumens (if that increase is actually projected properly...) is the same as a $10 halogen bulb so the value isn't there either.

 

[Etyrnus]

Yeah, not a great location and no comparison to stock. Needs to be a fully dark area and a light coloured wall (and no foglights). Also nice to add a shot alongside the wall, like another pic I saw where there was a lot of scatter/glare to the sides, lit up the whole wall.

From that shot it appears the beam is very narrow with sharp fall off to the sides becoming quite dim and the hotspots are too tall creating the appearance of alot of foreground light. Without a comparison to stock it doesn't really matter though, because it could be exactly the same. Does look very narrow though... and what is making the sign light up...?

better off to save money a little longer, do a retrofit, and push 4500lumens controlled down the road. These just don't have much if any performance benefit from anything I've seen other than people thinking that they look better because they are whiter. The marginal increase in lumens (if that increase is actually projected properly...) is the same as a $10 halogen bulb so the value isn't there either.

If you mean the pics at the top of page 9, the beam pattern is extremely similar between the halogen Xtravision vs the LED, just brighter. If that's scatter, it's coming off even the halogens with our headlight design.

 

[Violins77]

You don't really understand why it doesn't "seem" too bad do you? You put in a painted 8k bulb which puts out no light at all (compared to a proper HID bulb), so you have ~2400lumens to play with, which yes is an improvement over the ~1500lumen h11 halogen. Funnily enough, you could have spent $10 on some h9 bulbs and have the same 2400lumen output, so I don't think you really did much research beyond trying to find anything to support your wanting some blue lights.

If you put in a proper HID bulb with over 3000lumens you would have increased the intensity of all of the scatter/glare that you get from the OEM reflector and that is what is blinding and annoying.

The LEDs increase the glare as well, but again, they are pretty dim at only ~2500lumens as well, so it isn't as big a factor as a proper HID bulb. The colour temp of the h9 conversion makes it less annoying to other drivers so should be the only mod until you do a proper retrofit and are able to push more light.

Awaiting pics of blue light all up above the cutoff...

Hmmm, I thought I explained EXACTLY why it doesn't produce much glare by saying it is 8000k. I did not test the reflector enclosure with 6000K or 4000K, and while it is likely it will produce glare, it is not a sure thing as you seem to imply. Converting to H9 would have been more expensive than what I get for my HID kits for, not to mention the bulbs lasting significantly not as long while drawing more power.

Also, my lights are not as blue as you think, it is has a clean white/blue look. But it's all good, I was expecting an answer from one of you like that anyway. No matter how knowledgeable I might be on the subject or how much testing I have done would not matter to you unless I spend 300$ or more to get a projector. Otherwise, I'll be labeled as wannabe no matter what...

 

[iso100]

For perspective, the LEDs. Post 96. Can't speak for HIDs. http://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/threads/3665-The-Great-Quest-for-Headlights/page10

I ordered these and am awaiting my shipping notice.

 

[Violins77]

Here it is, the contrast were enhanced to show the effect of the light better.

Short distance shots :




Longer distance shots:


Low beam only :



Low beam plus fogs :



High beam :



And now a really overexposed picture to show all light :


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As you can see, the beam pattern is pretty identical to vanilla with this setup, and I can say in all fairness that it is secure and appropriate (for me and other drivers) to drive with these lights equiped.

 

[Etyrnus]

I ordered these and am awaiting my shipping notice.

When I ordered mine from them, I received them pretty quick. Do think there has been a rush on them though.

 

[westcoaST]

This is what HIDs retrofitted into a FiST headlight look like 55W Morimotos.

 

[Izzy]

From these pics 5000K HID's seem to work fine in our reflective housing.

http://http://blog.modbargains.com/installed-luxeon-led-fog-lights-fiesta-st-focus-st-hid-kit-photos/