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Hyundai gettin the aftermarket tune love finally

Clint Beastwood

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The reason I never even considered the 86 was because NO TURBO. I dont think I can ever go back to a Non-Turbo car again. The upgradeability and the cheap power gains got me hooked. That car will always be a bastard to me LoL
I'm starting to lean the other direction, I'm so tired of having to track down boost leaks and tighten hoses n shit.
 


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^^^Actually, Toy GR did not have to build a set/certain number of Yaris GR street cars in order to compete in the WRC.

The WRC has been on a 'kit car' type formula for their top spec cars ever since the end of the Group A class era (in 1996), which DID require the building of 5000, (and then 2500 later) 'base' versions of their AWD competition cars.

The current 'kit' formula uses the absolute most base, FWD, econoboxes from each manufacturer, and then applies a whole set rules meeting 'kit' to convert them into the AWD/turbo/sequential gearbox/carbon aero wonder monsters they now are.

It is almost as if Toy 'reverse engineered', 'de-aeroed', and de-tuned their Yaris GR street car from their WRC GR for the sake of enthusiasts (and 'bragging rights', I guess?), since they did NOT have to build it that way in order to compete (it actually was released AFTER they were already competing with the Yaris WRC in events).

But, a carbon fiber roof is VERBOTEN by the FIA in the WRC, so they gave the street cars a little 'something extra'. LOL

Next year the WRC Rally 1 class goes to a hybrid formula, so even LESS chance of any manufacturers building a SMALL hot hatch with a co$tly powerful hybrid AWD drivetrain just to 'appear like' their ultimate WRC weapons. [:(]

Just bring back group B from the 80's woooooooo buddy. I'd be curious about electric rally cars... that much weight doing dakar, a chunky ass tesla doing a gravel stage leaving behind a swath of shaken-loose body panels, etc.
 


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Just bring back group B from the 80's woooooooo buddy. I'd be curious about electric rally cars... that much weight doing dakar, a chunky ass tesla doing a gravel stage leaving behind a swath of shaken-loose body panels, etc.
The FIA has setup the rules so that the electric motors will only be used as a 'boost' (for a certain limited amount of times during a stage, at the driver's discretion) to the same turbo I.C.E. power that they've had since 2017.

They are NOT full electric, yet.
(World Rallycross is going full electric soon though.)

The current WRC cars are actually faster than the Group B cars were on the stages, but those monsters appeared to be faster because there was much less driver control over them, and they were on, and over that edge of control most of the time. [wink]

BTW; the WRC cars do not, nor never have done Dakar, or any of the other events like that one, those are 'rally RAIDS', a whole other class of; cars/trucks/buggies/bikes, with totally different technical rules, competing in those events.

The WRC did just bring back the Safari Rally in Kenya this year (for the first time since 2002), which is about the roughest, 'car breaking' event on their calendar (depending on how wet it's been, the cars will even use off-roader type external, elevated intake snorkels!).
 


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^^^Actually, Toy GR did not have to build a set/certain number of Yaris GR street cars in order to compete in the WRC.

The WRC has been on a 'kit car' type formula for their top spec cars ever since the end of the Group A class era (in 1996), which DID require the building of 5000, (and then 2500 later) 'base' versions of their AWD competition cars.

The current 'kit' formula uses the absolute most base, FWD, econoboxes from each manufacturer, and then applies a whole set rules meeting 'kit' to convert them into the AWD/turbo/sequential gearbox/carbon aero wonder monsters they now are.

It is almost as if Toy 'reverse engineered', 'de-aeroed', and de-tuned their Yaris GR street car from their WRC GR for the sake of enthusiasts (and 'bragging rights', I guess?), since they did NOT have to build it that way in order to compete (it actually was released AFTER they were already competing with the Yaris WRC in events).

But, a carbon fiber roof is VERBOTEN by the FIA in the WRC, so they gave the street cars a little 'something extra'. LOL

Next year the WRC Rally 1 class goes to a hybrid formula, so even LESS chance of any manufacturers building a SMALL hot hatch with a co$tly powerful hybrid AWD drivetrain just to 'appear like' their ultimate WRC weapons. [:(]
Oh snaps! Somewhere while dong research on the GR Homologation was mentioned. I'll try to re-find the article. Might not have been accurate I guess.

The Giulia Quadrifoglio also has a CF roof, hood and driveshaft. So once you crash it they just payout the value because repairs are so expensive.
 


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Oh snaps! Somewhere while dong research on the GR Homologation was mentioned. I'll try to re-find the article. Might not have been accurate I guess.

The Giulia Quadrifoglio also has a CF roof, hood and driveshaft. So once you crash it they just payout the value because repairs are so expensive.
Many automotive journos either do not know that the WRC/FIA no longer requires homologation of specific model configurations in order to compete, or, they are implying that the Yaris GR is in the same 'spirit' of the old homologation rules (Escort Cossie RS/WRC, Celica GT4/Alltrac, etc.) street legal, but limited production run, rally cars.
 


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Many automotive journos either do not know that the WRC/FIA no longer requires homologation of specific model configurations in order to compete, or, they are implying that the Yaris GR is in the same 'spirit' of the old homologation rules (Escort Cossie RS/WRC, Celica GT4/Alltrac, etc.) street legal, but limited production run, rally cars.
Makes sense! It's so sad we didnt get this car in the USA. I would've really liked to check it out. Must be some SMOG stuff or crash stuff that's not enabling them to send them over :-(
 




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