My official Race Chip thread 2.0 -

[Hypergram]

It's not a RaceChip.... It's a flux capacitor! Powered by 760 CCA of powa!

1.21 gigawatts of powa*****

 

[OneFord]

This topic tends to lead to flaming.
Flaming is not permitted.
This is the LAST warning.

I see where you are coming from but OP has done a heck of a lot of provoking. Also, nonetheless I think we are all just having fun here. Honestly most of us can't wait for his butt-dyno results.

Like I said before this is going to be EPIC!

 

[Clint Beastwood]

We need 60% less flaming as 100% more animated gif responses.

 

[Hypergram]

We need 60% less flaming as 100% more animated gif responses.

I've been looking for gifs but I can't find any decent ones.

 

[OneFord]

Post RaceChip!

 

[D1JL]

Honestly, I believe that many of the other posters here are provoking the OP before he has the chance to prove this product RIGHT or WRONG.
Yes, I also believe that the OP is taking this way too personal, resulting in flaming.
Please wait for the results.

 

[Spork1569]

We need 60% less flaming as 100% more animated gif responses.

Bring in an expert, where is @TyphoonFiST? We need GIFs stat

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

Like I said in the post you quoted, I don't really think those things, but it's hard not to wonder. Somebody had to wonder, "Why are we drinking this Kool-Aid?"

One thing is for sure, but not both: Either you are a paid shill and I am a genius as you suggested, or you talk too much and listen too little.

That said, good luck with your car, we are always here to help you and anyone else who seeks to improve and enjoy this fantastic platform.

Well i accept that offer of help Jeff, FYI to all i have thick skin and i don't really hold a grudge so nothing here gets me too upset. I played hardball all through my youth and if you can't handle trash talk when you are at bat you won't last, maybe that's where i get it.

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

How many possible sensors could you need for a tune? 4 is bigger than 2, I have high hopes for this thing.

Also I want to see a burnout, that's the real test

I tend to save my tires but i will say, the tires get loose in 2nd far more than they did without the chip. There is definitely more tq.

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

What happened to OP? The walking manbun in white shoes said this only take 50 minutes to install.

It was actually less than that but that was for a different car, they never did a video on the 1.6L FIST. This one has 4 sensors, 3 were easy (literally took 2 minutes) but the last one held me up. The boost pressure sensor is down way low by the FMIC and i couldn't get my arm down there, and my car was too low to reach under and i don't have ramps.

So i had to pull my car to the edge of my carport so the nose hangs over so i could get to the sensor. But the car needs to sit off for at least 10mins according to their install so when i moved my car around i had to wait and i moved it twice during my install. I also had to wait for the engine to cool after i left this morning which took up about an hour.

But yea it was simple, i don't even know how to change oil but i managed this install, it's pretty simple. And it did make a difference for sure, especially in low end. 2500-4000 is a big difference, 4000-5000 is a fairly good bump. I don't ususally run past 5k rpms.

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

So you admit you're a shill for Canon?

It'd be great if you took pictures of where the plugs go for in case someone else does want to follow in your RC footsteps.
Is this your first mod you're installing?

LOL i wish i was a shill, more money. My first mod was about 6 years ago i put a SRI on my old Celica GT. I don't count putting in new LEDs for lights.

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

but at least they can all agree to dump on anyone that posts an iphone photo lol

You'd be surprised, most ILC users don't bother talking about phones, it's the phone guys who are militant. Constant talk about phones replacing cameras ect, it's like a little man syndrome convention. And not one of them posts photos to back up their claims, i assume they are just trolling out of spite.

 

[Clint Beastwood]

You'd be surprised, most ILC users don't bother talking about phones, it's the phone guys who are militant. Constant talk about phones replacing cameras ect, it's like a little man syndrome convention. And not one of them posts photos to back up their claims, i assume they are just trolling out of spite.

Ah - its been 3-4 years, but back then I got dumped on for shooting micro 4/3 even though I had a full frame canon lol. The camera that's with you is way better than the one that isn't

 

[danbfree]

This looks similar to the flowmaster Delta boost module my buddy had on his raptor although his only had 3 sensor taps and something that gets power somewhere. The dealer could tell he had it installed even after removed because it makes the ECU look like it's been running lean and abnormal. (Which wasn't an issue with his mod friendly dealer). Different brand but all piggyback units work the same way.

Hope they get back to you with instructions. I'm sure you will get gains but calling everyone else a 'sheep' for getting an AP isn't cool. At least we make more power.

I'm all for people trying new things but it seems like everyone is so defensive about their own choices and what this guy does. You have to at least give him credit for being honest about the actual product he received and it's lack of instructions vs the default "it works great! I told you so!" that he could have posted.

At least on the FiST, the Delta has just one connection to the boost sensor, so it doesn't mess with AFR's, it just tricks the boost sensor into reading up to 4 psi less boost than it really is, that's it.. They also make MUCH more reasonable claims for power (18hp/25tq) and costs only $240. Ron and CJ Ponyparts sells them so if one is going to do a piggyback, this would be the way to go with no sign of AFR's or other things messed with... But mainly commented to be in for the results of this one.

 

[D1JL]

Please stay ON topic.

 

[Clint Beastwood]

It was actually less than that but that was for a different car, they never did a video on the 1.6L FIST. This one has 4 sensors, 3 were easy (literally took 2 minutes) but the last one held me up. The boost pressure sensor is down way low by the FMIC and i couldn't get my arm down there, and my car was too low to reach under and i don't have ramps.

So i had to pull my car to the edge of my carport so the nose hangs over so i could get to the sensor. But the car needs to sit off for at least 10mins according to their install so when i moved my car around i had to wait and i moved it twice during my install. I also had to wait for the engine to cool after i left this morning which took up about an hour.

But yea it was simple, i don't even know how to change oil but i managed this install, it's pretty simple. And it did make a difference for sure, especially in low end. 2500-4000 is a big difference, 4000-5000 is a fairly good bump. I don't ususally run past 5k rpms.

God that makes me nervous not having a way to see ignition corrections :|

Throw a gallon and a half of e85 in there or something.

 

[OneFord]

it did make a difference for sure, especially in low end. 2500-4000 is a big difference, 4000-5000 is a fairly good bump

There you have it folks. Irrefutable proof. Very much like their YT video.

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

At least on the FiST, the Delta has just one connection to the boost sensor, so it doesn't mess with AFR's, it just tricks the boost sensor into reading up to 4 psi less boost than it really is, that's it.. They also make MUCH more reasonable claims for power (18hp/25tq) and costs only $240. Ron and CJ Ponyparts sells them so if one is going to do a piggyback, this would be the way to go with no sign of AFR's or other things messed with... But mainly commented to be in for the results of this one.

Hi dan, i would have thought less sensor intercepts would be worse. I had another thread where i linked an old conversation here with a guy named MeastroMeastro. The gist of that thread was if you only manipulate boost readings, the other sensors will cause the ECU to compensate. Maestro actually bought the product and this was his findings.

Essentially you have one sensor saying one thing (boost pressure sensor), and several other sensors saying something different. At least this race chip goes 3 steps further and taps into 4, giving a more level adjustment for the ECU.

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

God that makes me nervous not having a way to see ignition corrections :|

Throw a gallon and a half of e85 in there or something.

The fuel RaceChip test with is 93, which is what use so i don't think that will be an issue. I have heard it mentioned that if you use a considerably lower octane you will notice knocking. I've used 93 every day so far owning my FIST.

 

[danbfree]

Hi dan, i would have thought less sensor intercepts would be worse. I had another thread where i linked an old conversation here with a guy named MeastroMeastro. The gist of that thread was if you only manipulate boost readings, the other sensors will cause the ECU to compensate. Maestro actually bought the product and this was his findings.

Essentially you have one sensor saying one thing (boost pressure sensor), and several other sensors saying something different. At least this race chip goes 3 steps further and taps into 4, giving a more level adjustment for the ECU.

I think it's as simple as the ECU will ensure proper AFR's under WOT and when you are only pushing that boost a known very safe 4 psi more then it's not going to run lean... Yes, definitely not as complex as other methods like you have and mentioned but also very safe and simple with a cheaper price to match. Also and easier to return to stock for warranty without having to drive 100 miles, or whatever it is, maybe more, just to clear unusual ECU readings that could be recognized. I'll just respectfully agree with the others that if you wanted any more than what the Delta module offered then an AP is the only way to go in terms of value and established safety. But it is very interesting, I'd at least run the Torque app or similar with a Bluetooth OBD dongle and connect to your phone so you can monitor a few things at least. Maybe there are different apps/ways to monitor more.