Valve Keeper In The Oil!

[XR650R]

Go with this, get a root beer float, and enjoy the evening.

If it ain't broke, drive it.

If it explodes, you know something was wrong.

 

[HAHAFiST]

If it ain't broke, drive it.

If it explodes, you know something was wrong.

Sure. I got money to throw out. haha. Doesn't help that the car isn't paid off. Round about 6k left top pay.

 

[XR650R]

Sure. I got money to throw out. haha. Doesn't help that the car isn't paid off. Round about 6k left top pay.

It's got lots of mods and lots of miles. It's running fine. Pay it off and enjoy your rare, unique little hot hatch.

 

[shouldbeasy]

Has anyone thought of HOW it would get in the pan at the factory? Is the pan not added when the engine is upside down? If so, it wouldn't have held the keeper while it was on the assembly line.

 

[HAHAFiST]

I watched an old T-Shirt Driving video I remembered from a couple years ago. He had Deadhook remove the head to check for a bad piston... When they pull the head and sett it down... you see oil draining from the larger galleys which are on both the exhaust and intake side... I think. this its completely possible honestly.. and I may be riding on a single keeper right now...

 

[Ford ST]

Apparently finding valve keepers in your oil pan is more common than you think.

Read this one below and if you read through all of it only 18 post he found two in his oil pan, and when he looked as his motor it had all of them.

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/to...55&share_fid=468&share_type=t&link_source=app

Found valve keeper in oil pan



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[HAHAFiST]

Apparently finding valve keepers in your oil pan is more common than you think.

Read this one below and if you read through all of it only 18 post he found two in his oil pan, and when he looked as his motor it had all of them.

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/to...55&share_fid=468&share_type=t&link_source=app

Found valve keeper in oil pan



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I just had a very similar discussion. The only way for that keeper to escape is up and it would be a very rowdy exit... it’s just not possible unless have a busted cam bucket and spring but even then... I don’t think clearances are big enough.... thanks for the link!


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[XR650R]

Has anyone thought of HOW it would get in the pan at the factory? Is the pan not added when the engine is upside down? If so, it wouldn't have held the keeper while it was on the assembly line.

Hard to say. It would be interesting to watch these motors being made, but they are no longer made.

 

[TyphoonFiST]

Has anyone thought of HOW it would get in the pan at the factory? Is the pan not added when the engine is upside down? If so, it wouldn't have held the keeper while it was on the assembly line.

This is Fomoco we are talking about here....NOT the Japanese who are skillfully and honorably chosen to assemble the GT-R engines who take pride and joy in their work.

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[PhoenixM3]

Go with this, get a root beer float, and enjoy the evening.

....or rev it to 8KRPM, then have a good reason to pull the engine apart.

 

[HAHAFiST]

This is Fomoco we are talking about here....NOT the Japanese who are skillfully and honorably chosen to assemble the GT-R engines who take pride and joy in their work.

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Best gif ever for that comment lol


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[HAHAFiST]

And then Adam reigns it all in... sigh.

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[shouldbeasy]

That was known from the beginning. But good to hear it from someone reputable.

Good luck with the inspection.

 

[HAHAFiST]

BIG UPDATE:

Removed the cams and…. IT WAS A SPARE! Great job FORD QC TEAM!

Meanwhile we did the major 100k+ miles services with timing belt assembly, water pump and several gaskets plus I serviced the injectors. Engine is running great and had all its keepers the entire time.

Some will say “told ya”, but hey… I wanted peace of mind and I had to help to save money on what would normally be a costly service job.


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[TyphoonFiST]

Ill put money on it that it was left during assembly in the oil pan*

Again...let me reiterate my original statement.

 

[HAHAFiST]

Again...let me reiterate my original statement.

Lol. Well I’m proud of you. . In the end. 100k service is done thanks to a Ford tech buddy of mine at the fraction of the cost so I’m calling it a win.


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[Ford ST]

Glad you got it sorted out happy for you.

People put way to much faith into manufacturers they make mistakes too. They are not nearly as meticulous as we think they are.

Hopefully this will give others peace of mind.

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[Gearbox88m]

Well, just had a phantom keeper show up on my drain plug today. Reading this has definitely eased my worries. I need to replace my VC gasket and HPFP follower anyway so I'm still gonna pull mine apart, but now I just think I'm gonna put the brakes on the keeper inspection and just say fuck it.

I have another car to drive so if the Fiesta blows up, then fuck it.

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[Gearbox88m]

Update on my situation.

Car has just surpassed 58K miles, been to a couple track days, and nothing to report.

 

[Sam4]

...."and I’ve never over revved it or money shifted it"......meh - I'm sure I've spit a whole valve outta the tailpipe by now.