I agree, and being from the 4G63 family...I just think its laughable that they would try to convince me that an EJ was better... because it simply isn't. They are easier to build, more reliable, and make so much power with very little effort or money. I've never been a WRX fan... liked the first gen, the legacy spec-b, and forester (xt)? But i wouldn't even try to extract very much more power. I agree, we have great engines. I'm shocked on how well they make power with stock internals and with the stock clutch and things of that nature. I think we have a better engine than the FoSt's also. It seems they can be pretty unreliable when they are beat on. But to their defense (same defense I used for the 4G63) when people would throw around the "unreliable claim" is that alot of knuckleheads get their hands on those cars and fuck around with something they have no business doing, beat the hell out of it on a daily basis and neglect simple maintenance and preventative measures to insure reliability. For the most part, FiST owners seem to respect and take care of their cars but I'm sure there will be those types....