high speed roll race tactics

[RAAMaudio]

I do break my own rules at times though not often, in "Mexico" about a year ago a guy in a cammed small block 67 Mustang revved on me at at stop light, absolutely nobody else around so I signaled a roll on, 2nd gear and he was cool with that. When rolling along he was waiting for me to go and I gave him a signal to go first so he did, I blew past him like he was sitting still On 225 Rival S tires, LSD, etc....2nd gear, boost hits hard like the stock turbo but 4k RPM, warm day, decent road, it does not spin the tires, it just goes, faster than a great deal of cars on the road in that circumstance. Having the power to weight ratio of a C7 Vette and hooking up makes for a pretty fast car in the right situation, I will have around the same as the 2014 Turbo Porsche soon and if I can hook up will easily be faster than the Vette and pretty even with the Porsche as long as not spinning the tires.

 

[Fasta123]

I do break my own rules at times though not often, in "Mexico" about a year ago a guy in a cammed small block 67 Mustang revved on me at at stop light, absolutely nobody else around so I signaled a roll on, 2nd gear and he was cool with that. When rolling along he was waiting for me to go and I gave him a signal to go first so he did, I blew past him like he was sitting still On 225 Rival S tires, LSD, etc....2nd gear, boost hits hard like the stock turbo but 4k RPM, warm day, decent road, it does not spin the tires, it just goes, faster than a great deal of cars on the road in that circumstance. Having the power to weight ratio of a C7 Vette and hooking up makes for a pretty fast car in the right situation, I will have around the same as the 2014 Turbo Porsche soon and if I can hook up will easily be faster than the Vette and pretty even with the Porsche as long as not spinning the tires.

nice! yea all of my experiances have also been in mexico. this car can be pretty quick once moving. as it so happens this past week I ws in mexico and I took out a Camaro that I could see weaving through traffic to get up to me it was a 2013/2014 model and I'm assuming a v6 cause I dispatched it pretty easy. even stage 3 on e30 I'm faster then 95% of the cars I come across.

 

[RAAMaudio]

I would like to have some fun with a 720 HP narrow tired Challenger

 

[IrishST]

I actually said I agree with you in my last post.....

Apologies, I took the meaning incorrectly.

Regarding the hate on roll racing, while I am of the mind that it isn't a good idea on the street for a ton of reasons, track racing is roll racing whether the drag racing guys want to recognize it or not. When you come out of a corner at 40 in 2nd or 3rd or whatever, do you come to a complete stop and then start over? No, you get on it from a roll through the straight until the next corner when you slow down a bit and then do it again. Having the power to up and go faster than the next guy, from a roll, is very important.

Just like road course isn't the only form of "real racing", neither is drag racing. Before the "but this is straight line racing on a street from a roll, it isn't the same"... It essentially is. While the people doing this on the street may not have that in mind, they are essentially emulating what cars do on the straights of a road course, just like the stop light drag racers emulate what is done on a proper 1/4 mile strip.

 

[Fasta123]

Apologies, I took the meaning incorrectly.

Regarding the hate on roll racing, while I am of the mind that it isn't a good idea on the street for a ton of reasons, track racing is roll racing whether the drag racing guys want to recognize it or not. When you come out of a corner at 40 in 2nd or 3rd or whatever, do you come to a complete stop and then start over? No, you get on it from a roll through the straight until the next corner when you slow down a bit and then do it again. Having the power to up and go faster than the next guy, from a roll, is very important.

Just like road course isn't the only form of "real racing", neither is drag racing. Before the "but this is straight line racing on a street from a roll, it isn't the same"... It essentially is. While the people doing this on the street may not have that in mind, they are essentially emulating what cars do on the straights of a road course, just like the stop light drag racers emulate what is done on a proper 1/4 mile strip.

no worries, I always have been down shifting while I drive I was just surprised by how hard it can pull even in 6th gear.. I know now its just an illusion. yea exactly that's why I think this trade off we have of a little slower start isn't to bad, we get lighter curbweight and more power to the ground. the only downside is quarter mile and from a traffic light. like you said you only start from a stop once...

 

[RAAMaudio]

IrishST, nailed it, thanks

Fasta123, also great response

 

[Fasta123]

IrishST, nailed it, thanks

Fasta123, also great response

thanks dude

 

[Wimp Lo]

Don't you guys have a raceway/drag strip? It's safer, legal, and can practice launching

Actually most people in California don't live within a reasonable distance of an operating race track.

Real estate is so expensive that suburban sprawl has grown in to the areas where tracks once were, then the track becomes so valuable that the owners sell or the Prius driving idiots who bought a house next to a race track complain to the local government to get noise and hour restrictions until the track is no longer viable.

The other thing is that there is so much litigation that you can't race a lot of stock cars without getting kicked out for running too fast without a cage or roll bar.

For a lot of people that makes the track impractical.

It would be nice if tracks were everywhere, cheap and they let the racers make their own decisions of personal safety.

That is just not the way it is and people can't avoid temptation, especially in Mexico.

 

[frankiefiesta]

Actually most people in California don't live within a reasonable distance of an operating race track.

Real estate is so expensive that suburban sprawl has grown in to the areas where tracks once were, then the track becomes so valuable that the owners sell or the Prius driving idiots who bought a house next to a race track complain to the local government to get noise and hour restrictions until the track is no longer viable.

The other thing is that there is so much litigation that you can't race a lot of stock cars without getting kicked out for running too fast without a cage or roll bar.

For a lot of people that makes the track impractical.

It would be nice if tracks were everywhere, cheap and they let the racers make their own decisions of personal safety.

That is just not the way it is and people can't avoid temptation, especially in Mexico.

I totally get it, I've raced on the open highway plenty of times. I try not to though. It is very tempting haha..

Guess I'm just fortunate to live close enough to two raceways (each one about 45 min drive) to make it easy to resist