We've seen a few come here to gauge interest. Frankenturbo was here and was developing one and was never heard from again. Vargas turbo came here and was developing one but was shamed out of here, because his reputation followed him here. He took his toys and went home. So as far as people being cynical, these are a few reasons why.
Is anyone interested in a stock framed turbo upgrade in the USA?
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#23
Honestly, I was expecting more cynicism 😀
You guys aren't too bad compared to the ZX2 guys of old 😉
I'm just approaching this as a passion project. If the work I do on my own turbo can benefit others, and it makes sense financially, then it will be a go.
The only thing that would set my turbo appart from others is a lower price and perhaps a lower hp level. Perhaps a true entry level turbo?
We will see where this goes...🤓👍
We are a volume producer of turbos and occasionally we get some interesting repair jobs from local performance shops. Today we repaired a couple turbos for a GTR. Pictures attached.
You guys aren't too bad compared to the ZX2 guys of old 😉
I'm just approaching this as a passion project. If the work I do on my own turbo can benefit others, and it makes sense financially, then it will be a go.
The only thing that would set my turbo appart from others is a lower price and perhaps a lower hp level. Perhaps a true entry level turbo?
We will see where this goes...🤓👍
We are a volume producer of turbos and occasionally we get some interesting repair jobs from local performance shops. Today we repaired a couple turbos for a GTR. Pictures attached.
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I agree with everything said so far on this topic. A $500-$900 would be nice, but I don't see it happening long term, regardless of the "passion" in the Passion Project. Is there any market data on an in-between sized turbo - stock 200hp < ??? < 300hp < .....
Is this just a side project to keep your attention, are you looking to make a few grand and move on or are you scoping out another market segment for the long-term potential? If you are a business, you have to approach with that mentality. You could make the best $500 turbo, but if you make 10 and stop because you have a new passion making turbos for the upcoming 'Brand X car'....well... I would rather buy a from a business that continues production of a product (same model or an improved one) rather than a one-off that may stop production (replacement/warranty concerns).
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Demand refers to how much of a product consumers are willing to purchase, at different price points, during a certain time period. We all have limited resources, and we have to decide what we're willing and able to buy.
While demand explains the consumer side of purchasing decisions, supply relates to the seller's desire to make a profit. A supply schedule shows the amount of product that a supplier is willing and able to offer to the market, at specific price points, during a certain time period. (that is key. Example: you produce, everybody loves them, some of us put off buying the other brand and are about to put in the order and you lost your passion to produce. Or we start saving and while we save, you stop.)
Equilibrium is the point where demand for a product equals the quantity supplied. This means that there's no surplus and no shortage of goods.
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I would suggest some formal market research before you continue down this path. The most successful businesses do. YMMV. Good luck.
Is this just a side project to keep your attention, are you looking to make a few grand and move on or are you scoping out another market segment for the long-term potential? If you are a business, you have to approach with that mentality. You could make the best $500 turbo, but if you make 10 and stop because you have a new passion making turbos for the upcoming 'Brand X car'....well... I would rather buy a from a business that continues production of a product (same model or an improved one) rather than a one-off that may stop production (replacement/warranty concerns).
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Demand refers to how much of a product consumers are willing to purchase, at different price points, during a certain time period. We all have limited resources, and we have to decide what we're willing and able to buy.
While demand explains the consumer side of purchasing decisions, supply relates to the seller's desire to make a profit. A supply schedule shows the amount of product that a supplier is willing and able to offer to the market, at specific price points, during a certain time period. (that is key. Example: you produce, everybody loves them, some of us put off buying the other brand and are about to put in the order and you lost your passion to produce. Or we start saving and while we save, you stop.)
Equilibrium is the point where demand for a product equals the quantity supplied. This means that there's no surplus and no shortage of goods.
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I would suggest some formal market research before you continue down this path. The most successful businesses do. YMMV. Good luck.
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#26
Thanks for the feedback and careful thought.
I have a more simple approach.
1: Prove out the parts on my own car.
2: Add new part number to our system.
3: Open up to orders.
4: You call, turbo ships within 24-48hrs.
I'm not doing this to make money for myself. The buisness would handle orders and receive the profit. All I need to do is set up the part number 😀👍
I'm planning on owning this car for 10 years. I already own one other Fiesta (2012 SFE) and plan on buying one for each of my 5 kids as they reach driving age. So, at this moment, I'm committed to the Fiesta. I still own the very first car I ever bought and I drove the ZX2 for 377,000 miles, I like long term commitments.
Please continue to voice feedback, interest and concerns, that will help the process along.
I have a more simple approach.
1: Prove out the parts on my own car.
2: Add new part number to our system.
3: Open up to orders.
4: You call, turbo ships within 24-48hrs.
I'm not doing this to make money for myself. The buisness would handle orders and receive the profit. All I need to do is set up the part number 😀👍
I'm planning on owning this car for 10 years. I already own one other Fiesta (2012 SFE) and plan on buying one for each of my 5 kids as they reach driving age. So, at this moment, I'm committed to the Fiesta. I still own the very first car I ever bought and I drove the ZX2 for 377,000 miles, I like long term commitments.
Please continue to voice feedback, interest and concerns, that will help the process along.
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#32
You hit the nail on the head, stock or stock +, FoST power on 91 would be the goal and it would be a stock, modified turbo. I'm interested in long term, 100,000 mile, durability. Therefore you dont want to run the fuel system and turbo at ten, tenths in order to make 300+hp. Keep it to seven, tenths and enjoy 250-275hp for many years to come....that would be my hope. Of course, I am brand new to the ST community...however I have 205k on my SFE with the original DCT still working great 🤓👍
I thought that the SFEs were 5 cog manuals ONLY? ![[???:)]](/images/smilies/confused.gif "Really Confused [???:)]")
(Or were the earliest ones available with the 'problematic' slushbox??)
(Or were the earliest ones available with the 'problematic' slushbox??)
Any Fiesta with a manual is a good used car bargain. The base model is a sturdy, good-handling small car.
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