Power loss after installing COBB stage 1!?!?

[iamkeviinv2]

So I usually race my brothers 2013 si as a benchmark to see what improvements my car has made. Usually by the time I hit 100 he's in my rear view mirror but today I raced him with my tune and to my surprise he was in front of me! Does the tune move all of my power to 100+ mph or what happened? I raced him 3 times to see if it was a fluke and it wasn't. Any incite would be greatly appreciated.

 

[iso100]

No, you should have had better performance. Verify that you installed the right map for your octane and that you didn't install a valet map.

 

[iamkeviinv2]

No, you should have had better performance. Verify that you installed the right map for your octane and that you didn't install a valet map.

Yeah I have the 91 stage 1 v103 map on my car.. Double checked

 

[iso100]

And you're certain that you have 91 octane fuel? I would pull up some sensors on the AP to monitor timing, octane adj, estimated tq, etc and logging a run.

 

[CivicAssassin]

That and/or your ECU hasn't completely relearned the new map, yet. I know when I installed mine, it took 2-3 days before it felt right. Runs like a scalded dog, now!

 

[iamkeviinv2]

That and/or your ECU hasn't completely relearned the new map, yet. I know when I installed mine, it took 2-3 days before it felt right. Runs like a scalded dog, now!

I'm positive. I'm getting all of the linear throttle and blah blah. When I gun it I usually end up around 219-229 torque and by the time I have to shift it goes down to about 170 with a random spike at 250 once or twice. My boost usually stays at 18,19 psi and a random spike it shows me of 62!? Idk if that's the accessport messing up but when I'm looking at the max/min my max has said 62 several times. Idk what's going on. That's why I thought I would put it here. For help lol. I refuse to believe that because the Ecu needs a few days to properly learn the car that that the civic beat me period when I beat him on the regular by the time I hit 100.

 

[iamkeviinv2]

And you're certain that you have 91 octane fuel? I would pull up some sensors on the AP to monitor timing, octane adj, estimated tq, etc and logging a run.

Lol I don't play the not putting 91 gas in my car lol. I always put the best I possibly can. Which is 91 in California

 

[lessard.dcj]

shouldnt the ecu do a relearn once the map is installed?
is their a way to reset the learning?

 

[rodmoe]

Is this the first time you flashed the car to this map ? is will take a little bit for the car ecu to relearn and the car will feel crappy till it does maybe a day or at most 50-100 miles (less if I recall) On the AP what is your Octane Learn Ratio ? should be -1 for best perf.

 

[COBB Tuning1]

After you do a reflash, to get full performance you need to verify your Octane Adjustment Ratio Learned (OAR) is at -1. Sometimes after a flash, it will be at 0, and you won't get all the performance (timing wise) until it is at -1.00. I pull up OAR, Cylinder 1 Timing Correction, and Boost as monitors on my AP, get on the freeway in 6th gear, and then give the car partial throttle so timing advances a small amount and boost pressure is positive a little bit to create load. Do this for a little bit, then lioft throttle and see the OAR move closer to -1.00 and repeat as necessary.

Ian

 

[rodmoe]

After you do a reflash, to get full performance you need to verify your Octane Adjustment Ratio Learned (OAR) is at -1. Sometimes after a flash, it will be at 0, and you won't get all the performance (timing wise) until it is at -1.00. I pull up OAR, Cylinder 1 Timing Correction, and Boost as monitors on my AP, get on the freeway in 6th gear, and then give the car partial throttle so timing advances a small amount and boost pressure is positive a little bit to create load. Do this for a little bit, then lioft throttle and see the OAR move closer to -1.00 and repeat as necessary.

Ian

OAR thats what I meant to type LOL Thanks Ian and i can say it won't take long getting to -1 if needed

 

[iamkeviinv2]

After you do a reflash, to get full performance you need to verify your Octane Adjustment Ratio Learned (OAR) is at -1. Sometimes after a flash, it will be at 0, and you won't get all the performance (timing wise) until it is at -1.00. I pull up OAR, Cylinder 1 Timing Correction, and Boost as monitors on my AP, get on the freeway in 6th gear, and then give the car partial throttle so timing advances a small amount and boost pressure is positive a little bit to create load. Do this for a little bit, then lioft throttle and see the OAR move closer to -1.00 and repeat as necessary.

Ian

Thank you Ian!!!

This is my next question, if it isn't at -1 what do I do to adjust it? I've already driven over 200-300 miles on the newly flashed tune. Thank you for the input everyone! Proud to be part of a very generous group of enthusiasts.

 

[iamkeviinv2]

My OAR is already at -1. What is the cylinder correction for? I can't even find it on my ap. What is it under. And what should my cylinder one read?

 

[BlueBomber]

My OAR is already at -1. What is the cylinder correction for? I can't even find it on my ap. What is it under. And what should my cylinder one read?

"Timing Corr Cyl 1-4" should be the name under gauges.

If you are having a hard time hit me up on fb chat and i'll walk you thru it later tonight or this week.

 

[_Hunter702]

Im kinda in the same boat, it doesnt feel much different i reflashed it 2 days ago Im gonna do a drive and datalog and see whats up. Any advice would be great.

 

[gojagz]

Also, if your boost is only 18-19, check your clamps. Tightening those bastards will make a difference

 

[iso100]

The ECU won't request 21psi unless it's needed. If it's nice and cool out it will stay below 20.

 

[gojagz]

Its the middle of the summer..... it isn't nice and cool. Anytime I get on it, I see 21psi. If he is only showing 18-19psi at peak, that isn't quite right

 

[hotrodst7]

maybe you are asking the wrong questions, like is your brother secretly making his car faster and using your car to check his improvements?

 

[iso100]

^^Haha. Turbo mofo!