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Snap Oversteer

ronmcdon

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I think maybe drivers interpret a more unpredictable rear end with snap oversteer.

I've spun out unpredictably at turn 10 at Laguna Seca. The one with a lot of camber. It's not snap oversteer, but the sensation is not totally unlike the rear end fishtailing on my old 240sx during autoX, that didn't have the suspension sorted out (and poor tuning with difficult throttle modulation).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laguna_Seca

I think what to strive for is predictable rotation, minimizing understeer. Probably this means a number of variables including driving experience and tuning the suspension that works best for you.
 


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Our off throttle rotation is one most fun things about canyon driving in the FIST
canyon driving scares me with this car. On tighter tracks like streets of willow springs, it's wonderful. at the few autoX I've done, car is also a delight.

Knowing if the tail comes out, worst case scenario I knock over cones in Auto X is a lot more reassuring than sliding off the mountain.
 


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canyon driving scares me with this car. On tighter tracks like streets of willow springs, it's wonderful. at the few autoX I've done, car is also a delight.

Knowing if the tail comes out, worst case scenario I knock over cones in Auto X is a lot more reassuring than sliding off the mountain.
Yeah I like spirited driving but I keep it between the mustard and mayo, I don't need to test the FISTs flight capabilities... Knowing ones limits helps, luckily I found those limits in my 20s lol
 


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canyon driving scares me with this car. On tighter tracks like streets of willow springs, it's wonderful. at the few autoX I've done, car is also a delight.

Knowing if the tail comes out, worst case scenario I knock over cones in Auto X is a lot more reassuring than sliding off the mountain.
Don't turn off the traction control when you are canyon driving. The first time you think you've overcooked it and the rear end just obediently gets back in line you'll be glad you let the car do its own thing.
 


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with traction control, I usually keep it somewhere in the middle with 'sport mode' but not fully off traction control with daily driving. track driving will go full off. When I spun out at Leguna Seca, traction control was fully off.

I am fortunate enough to live very close to Mulholland Canyon and some stretches of Sunset Blvd in Los Angeles, so get to do a bit more canyon roads. Its a lot easier with they are roads you're already familiar with.
 


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driving Canyon Lake/Tortilla Flat with this car in the rain with improper tires might be one of the most terrifying things I have experienced... I couldn't properly chase my friend down in his '15 FiST because I drive on a cheap set of rubbers that are only good in the heat & in the dry. when it's dry & warm though, it feels great.
 


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^ Canyon Lake TX?
Makes me want to hit Lime Creek Rd in Austin next time I'm out there.
Did in the dark in a stock Saturn in college, a bit intimidating, especially pre-GPS
 


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^ Canyon Lake TX?
Makes me want to hit Lime Creek Rd in Austin next time I'm out there.
Did in the dark in a stock Saturn in college, a bit intimidating, especially pre-GPS
Canyon lake in Arizona, both Zeille and I live in the East valley
 




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