Sprayed150's get beat up in Street Touring autox thread!!!! WOOOO!!!!!

[Sprayed150]

OK, so back home from my first ProSolo weekend, lets just say me and my codriver had a bad weekend. there was not enough cars to make aa class for us so we got grouped into an index class with G street and D street cars. less mods, but faster base cars that can run much more tire than i can. few Focus st's on the same tire as me but 255 wide, and nick sparks aka Mr ProSolo in his D street WRX.

the class uses your PAX adjusted time to, in theory, equal out the cars times, this works great when the classes have been around a while and its know the differences in performance. STH is brand new, so the pax wrecked us hard. we did the math and would have had to run times equal to new corvettes on 315 hoosier slicks to win our class(this would mean we would have had to be one of the fastest cars there) suffice to say, this sucked and we had zero chance of winning. both me and my co driver ran times pretty close to the 2nd and 3rd place focus st car today in the dry, but because of PAX, he was seconds ahead of us once it was adjusted.

my first 2 right side runs i redlight the .500 pro tree, once of them with a .497 rt so sat am dry session i offically set no times, and my left course time was ok. saat afternoon it started to pour, i set an ok wet time, faster than some of the other guys dry times for right and it put me on the board in 7th of 10 and my co driver in 6th. sunday am dried up and we went up and down the boaard a bit, but there was no way we could have run the needed times to win with our insane prosolo pax. we finised with me in 8th and my co driver in 6th, he got me on one side by .2 or .3 seconds.

next weekend is the champ tour for dixie region in georgia, i will get bumped to another class since im the only STH car registered but hopefully between that and our slightly better non prosolo pax it MAY work in my favor.

For the car, it behaved wonderfully, super neutral, able to pivot on command, handled bouncing the limiter and 1 money shift where it saw 8k rpms for a split second. wet or dry it handled well and as always was a blast to drive. I just know not to bring it to another ProSolo event again.

The downpipe from Ron@Whoosh coupled with my new tune from Stratified really helped out with the car hanging in the upper rpm range the whole time, solid power, quick response, and it never fell on its face, also, the gurgles and backfires sound so much better. huge thank you to both those guys/companies for getting me stuff last minute. hopefully I can fix my dishonor next weekend in Georgia.

Ill post the pictures from the event and some video as they are uploaded.




edit. forgot to mention, in the dry, on 200tw street tires on an unprepped surface i waas cutting 2.2 60fts and in the rain on the same tires, 2.3's

 

[Sprayed150]

Car all stickered up

 

[green_henry]

No Grassroots Motorsports sticker(s)?

What helmet is that? Very Stormtrooper. I like it!

 

[Sprayed150]

No Grassroots Motorsports sticker(s)?

What helmet is that? Very Stormtrooper. I like it!

its a bell BR1

 

[M-Sport fan]

They time your 60 foots in Pro Solo?!

I am surprised that the starting straight is even long enough to do that before the first turn.

Glad to hear that the car performed great, and had NO problems.

The whole effed up classing thing NOT allowing you to set up the car the way YOU want it to be, because of throwing you into a TOTALLY non-competitive class is why I refuse to do autocross (especially SCCA)!
(That, and the a/x entry fees around here are approaching the TR Track Night fee costs.)

 

[Sprayed150]

They time your 60 foots in Pro Solo?!

I am surprised that the starting straight is even long enough to do that before the first turn.

Glad to hear that the car performed great, and had NO problems.

The whole effed up classing thing NOT allowing you to set up the car the way YOU want it to be, because of throwing you into a TOTALLY non-competitive class is why I refuse to do autocross (especially SCCA)!
(That, and the a/x entry fees around here are approaching the TR Track Night fee costs.)

ProSolo does, and does a .500 pro tree, also the courses have rules, 150ft straight at the start, slalom in the first 3rd, both courses are mirrors of the other, etc




also, quick upload of sunday am runs



https://vimeo.com/259609686




also, as for classing, they do it so the majority of the time there is good competition, they have been doing this for over 40 years this way because it works for the most part. if you want to autox, show up, run whatever class you fall in, and have fun, but dont intentionaally class yourself illegally as that pisses people off.

if you want to win, you pick a car and class its competitive in, and build for that, some classes have 3 or 4 "good" cars, some classes have 1 good car, thats just how it is

 

[ron@whoosh]

ProSolo does, and does a .500 pro tree, also the courses have rules, 150ft straight at the start, slalom in the first 3rd, both courses are mirrors of the other, etc




also, quick upload of sunday am runs



https://vimeo.com/259609686




also, as for classing, they do it so the majority of the time there is good competition, they have been doing this for over 40 years this way because it works for the most part. if you want to autox, show up, run whatever class you fall in, and have fun, but dont intentionaally class yourself illegally as that pisses people off.

if you want to win, you pick a car and class its competitive in, and build for that, some classes have 3 or 4 "good" cars, some classes have 1 good car, thats just how it is

really nice driving man
thanks for sharing the video

 

[M-Sport fan]

ProSolo does, and does a .500 pro tree, also the courses have rules, 150ft straight at the start, slalom in the first 3rd, both courses are mirrors of the other, etc




also, quick upload of sunday am runs



https://vimeo.com/259609686




also, as for classing, they do it so the majority of the time there is good competition, they have been doing this for over 40 years this way because it works for the most part. if you want to autox, show up, run whatever class you fall in, and have fun, but dont intentionaally class yourself illegally as that pisses people off.

if you want to win, you pick a car and class its competitive in, and build for that, some classes have 3 or 4 "good" cars, some classes have 1 good car, thats just how it is

I obviously knew about the mirrored courses (that's what makes it PRO SOLO in the first place), but did not know about the starting straight length course requirement.

Like so many others I do NOT want to have to 'build for a class' and HAVE TO run a certain car to be competitive, since the SCCA Solo Board will ALWAYS BE biased in their rules and classing to whatever whims, biases, and preferences it's own members want as far a marques/models go, parity be damned!

I'd rather take that local $60.00+ entry fee for 3 (at best) 60 second runs, and put it towards a (much more seat time) Track Night instead.

 

[Sprayed150]

Ok, back from The Dixie Champ Tour in Georgia. the car behaved very well despite the location not having near the grip that Ft Meyers does. Unfortunately, i was the lone car in the class and there was no bumps, so i was racing myself for a trophy by default. Unfortunately again, going from the STH class facebook, most of the people that will race it are up in the northeast, so ill most likely not have anyone to race at big events down here. The Pax times for STH are still a bit rough as well, even at the non pro event, raw times i was middle of the pack for street touring and the event in general, but got in the bottom 3rd of the pax score. I could have driven a bit better after reviewing my videos, but not enough for the car to be competitive. I am starting to see that the fiesta may not be the car for STH, though we can easily make the power needed for it with out 2620lbs weight, we just wont be able to get the grip being as tire limited. the VW's and subarus can run 20-30mm more tire, same for the focus, and the cobalt ss/tc can run more thaan that per claass rules, and make 50+ hp more than us based off the rules.

What is going to happen now is im going to return the car completely to H Street rules, all its going to have is a 16in wheel, a good tire, Koni yellows, and a rear sway bar. literally everything for my car besides those parts is going up for sale this week, wheels with a choice of 2 different tire sets included as the 15x8's are not legal for H street.

Ill have videos to put up later today

 

[bustervic]

Sounds like we are getting hosed for pax.. and tires..

Making me rethink my upgrades or planned upgrades...

You can still run the swift springs though right?

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[Sprayed150]

Sounds like we are getting hosed for pax.. and tires..

Making me rethink my upgrades or planned upgrades...

You can still run the swift springs though right?

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nope


H street rules say you can ONLY do the below mods, nothing more

1 sway bar
drop in airfilter
down 1in in rim size with same width as stock
catback exhaust
replace OEM shocks with a direct replacement
200tw tire

honestly, that it no tunes, no intake, no springs, etc

 

[bustervic]

Wow. Well you'll be a hotshoe in HS. Locally our group is very small so unless I travel more I'm ok with taking a PAX hit. I was already top 10 in RAW and PAX on street tires. I'm tempted to try those Swift's.

Thanks for posting updates in here. Seriously.

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[GotVic]

nope

down 1in in rim size with same width as stock

Used to be able to run ± .5" stock width. That was years ago, so it could have changed since.

 

[Sprayed150]

Used to be able to run ± .5" stock width. That was years ago, so it could have changed since.

yea, its stock width, that was prob when it was "stock" not "street" class and you could also run hoosiers


the go to wheel is the enkei RPF1 in 16x7 as they are 13lbs

 

[Sprayed150]

well, took all my bracing off, took the radiator out, and all the intake stuff off today, downpipe and springs come off tomorrow, and ordering my 16s and re71s this week to be h street legal

 

[Sprayed150]

 

[Plainrt]

Nice. I was also gathering parts for sth build. It decided against and sold all parts. H street is just way better spot for these things. Good luck guy.

 

[M-Sport fan]

AGREED!

IF one has to officially compete in autocross, in an SCCA class, H/Street is it.

I just refuse to have to drive my car around NOT the way I want it to be, just to be able to do 3-4 60 second runs, a couple of times a month in the summer.

 

[GotVic]

I gave up on autocross a loooong time ago. You have to be a fan of autocross, not your car, because you have to trade cars/setups every few years to stay competitive. And yes, all that to sweat balls in a hot parking lot for 6 hours for *maybe* 5 minutes of drive time? LOL. Yeah, right. No. Old age has gotten the better of me.

 

[Plainrt]

People can knock autocross all they want but it sure can teach people how to drive and it's not something everyone is good at. I'd rather do autocross than be the cars and coffee type........