Any upgraded turbo inlet reviews/data?

[jeff]

I've been thinking of adding this piece to my setup. I know Puma makes one and I'm sure there are others.

http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/product-Brand-New---Pumaspeed-Racing-Billet-CNC-Turbo-Inlet_17873.jsp

However I asked my tuner (Tune+ aka Adam) about it recently and his reply was "Zero benefit and would be a waste of time."

Curious if anyone has data or impressions after adding this piece by itself, not as a package.

 

[CarGuy]

Mountune makes one but not for sale here in the US, only in Europe. I'm not sure if it would fit our FiST but maybe.

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[Woods247]

Edit: I just reread your post... Adam said the same thing to me but that’s when we didn’t know my IC was cracked. Fingers were pointing all over the place until I went with my gut and check the welds on my endtanks.

Hey Jeff. Given our setups are similar, you might ask Adam if he sees an advantage on my car (X47, Whoosh manifold and billet Puma inlet). I’ll say this, I’m pretty sure the whistle is louder which totally contradicts what I originally said about it. This may not be an issue for you since your airbox is stock but I figured I’d mention it.

 

[jeff]

Edit: I just reread your post... Adam said the same thing to me but that’s when we didn’t know my IC was cracked. Fingers were pointing all over the place until I went with my gut and check the welds on my endtanks.

Hey Jeff. Given our setups are similar, you might ask Adam if he sees an advantage on my car (X47, Whoosh manifold and billet Puma inlet). I’ll say this, I’m pretty sure the whistle is louder which totally contradicts what I originally said about it. This may not be an issue for you since your airbox is stock but I figured I’d mention it.

Wish we could meet up and drive each other's cars, that would tell me a lot. Maybe one day.

 

[Humpy Mcsaddles]

i was inquiring about this same thing about two weeks ago and i read somewhere around this community, either here or reddit, that they kept getting boost leak after the install. also, it may be that our hybrid turbo's just aren't big enough to see any benefit from it and it adds another point of failure.

i was willing to bite the bullet on an inlet in hopes that i could get another 3 hp out of an e30 tune but i draw the line at chasing down boost leak lol.

regardless, i say that you go rogue and do it. for science.

 

[jeff]

i was inquiring about this same thing about two weeks ago and i read somewhere around this community, either here or reddit, that they kept getting boost leak after the install. also, it may be that our hybrid turbo's just aren't big enough to see any benefit from it and it adds another point of failure.

i was willing to bite the bullet on an inlet in hopes that i could get another 3 hp out of an e30 tune but i draw the line at chasing down boost leak lol.

regardless, i say that you go rogue and do it. for science.

I’d like to know more about what you read. I cannot find much. I don’t get the boost leak thing because there is already an inlet there, so it’s not like we are adding a part that could leak, only replacing one. Puma makes good stuff.

I have a chunk of change I was saving to tune my Honda but I think I’ve decided against it, I am considering putting the money into a few upgrades and a fresh tune for my Fiesta instead. I contacted a tuner and asked about the inlet, we will see what they say.

 

[D1JL]

i was inquiring about this same thing about two weeks ago and i read somewhere around this community, either here or reddit, that they kept getting boost leak after the install. also, it may be that our hybrid turbo's just aren't big enough to see any benefit from it and it adds another point of failure.

It is impossible to get a boost leak from this part.
Simply because there is NO boost at this point.
This part is at the inlet of the turbo, the worst you could get is unfiltered air in from a leak.
Even if there was a leak, the suction of incoming air would take the path of least resistance so any small leak would be inconsaquntial.

 

[Raziel510]

I have the whoosh V1 turbo inlet and the only issue I have is the fitment with the whoosh crossover pipe silicone hose. It is mismatched so the inlet side clamp had to be extremely tightened.

 

[D1JL]

I have the whoosh V1 turbo inlet and the only issue I have is the fitment with the whoosh crossover pipe silicone hose. It is mismatched so the inlet side clamp had to be extremely tightened.

I did the original fitment and install wright up on the Whoosh V1 inlet.
I found no issues at all.
I will admit that I used the RamAir crossover pipe however the Whoosh is an exact copy of that.
Even so, you only have to tighten the clamp once if it is done correctly.

 

[ron@whoosh]

I've been thinking of adding this piece to my setup. I know Puma makes one and I'm sure there are others.

http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/product-Brand-New---Pumaspeed-Racing-Billet-CNC-Turbo-Inlet_17873.jsp

However I asked my tuner (Tune+ aka Adam) about it recently and his reply was "Zero benefit and would be a waste of time."

Curious if anyone has data or impressions after adding this piece by itself, not as a package.

Woods247 has this installed and reviewed in his build thread

 

[Humpy Mcsaddles]

It is impossible to get a boost leak from this part.
Simply because there is NO boost at this point.
This part is at the inlet of the turbo, the worst you could get is unfiltered air in from a leak.
Even if there was a leak, the suction of incoming air would take the path of least resistance so any small leak would be inconsaquntial.

i think its settled then, Jeff should do it for science.

 

[Manta Ray]

Jeff, do it for glory!

 

[jeff]

I did the original fitment and install wright up on the Whoosh V1 inlet.
I found no issues at all.
I will admit that I used the RamAir crossover pipe however the Whoosh is an exact copy of that.
Even so, you only have to tighten the clamp once if it is done correctly.

Thank you. So can you comment on the performance/gains/sound after adding the Whoosh inlet? I can't find any data anywhere.

Woods247 has this installed and reviewed in his build thread

Thank you. Matt installed it along with a few other mods so he was not able to comment on whether or not this as a standalone does anything. That's what I'm looking for. Any data on your piece?

i think its settled then, Jeff should do it for science.

Jeff, do it for glory!

Science and glory, hmmm errr…..

 

[D1JL]

Thank you. So can you comment on the performance/gains/sound after adding the Whoosh inlet? I can't find any data anywhere.

It is my belief that any performance information about a part can only be provided if a test is made before and after the install of that SINGLE part.
I did NOT preform these tests, therefore, I cannot provide the info that you want.

It is my opinion however, that ANY increase in volume of airflow made by ANY part of the intake system helps the overall performance factor.

 

[jeff]

It is my belief that any performance information about a part can only be provided if a test is made before and after the install of that SINGLE part.
I did NOT preform these tests, therefore, I cannot provide the info that you want.

It is my opinion however, that ANY increase in volume of airflow made by ANY part of the intake system helps the overall performance factor.

Yes I understand but at some point airflow additions become pointless without fuel or other upgrades to support/work alongside more AFM...that’s why I was curious if a hybrid setup would benefit from the inlet.

My tuner says it’s a waste at 300whp, that my weak link is not AFM, it’s fuel....just wondering if any data gives a more objective verdict on this. Don't want to waste my money.

 

[Raziel510]

I went back to the stock turbo inlet. I was having issues with the whoosh V1 inlet. The problem was I wasn't holding boost as well as the first time I installed it. I repositioned it and tightened up the clamp but I was only getting ~25 psi when I was used to getting 26+. Now on the stock inlet I'm hitting 27 psi

 

[Alkoran]

I went back to the stock turbo inlet. I was having issues with the whoosh V1 inlet. The problem was I wasn't holding boost as well as the first time I installed it. I repositioned it and tightened up the clamp but I was only getting ~25 psi when I was used to getting 26+. Now on the stock inlet I'm hitting 27 psi

Did you check with Whoosh about this issue? Making a gasket would might be a good fix. Or get the flange machined flat since the welding surely warped it a little bit.

And that's curious since as D1JL mentionned, this inlet is BEFORE the boosted part of piping so it should not create any leaks whatsoever.

 

[Raziel510]

I read that comment as well and thought it could not be from the inlet but after switching back to stock I've had a night and day difference in the way it pulls. Before it felt like it was running out of breath from the middle to the top end.

 

[jdub1990]

To add to this discussion, a local Fiesta ST owner who purchased an X47R from me was encountering issues when he was being tuned past 25.5 PSI with his E30 tune. After 2 months of trying to track down the issue, which was original thought of us as a boost leak, the tuner suggested it must be a bottleneck in the intake or exhaust. To expound on the troubleshooting done: the clamps and boost pipes were checked for loose connections (numerous times), exhaust manifold bolts re-torqued to spec, and many adjustments done from the tuner....all resulted in no change. As I moved to an S280 turbo since then, I offered to give him my aftermarket inlet due to the comments from his tuner about a potential intake bottleneck. After he installed the part the apparent bottleneck went away and he and his tuner were able to tune the car properly to achieve the boost level and level of performance capable of the setup. I only want to document this for future individuals who could run into issues from their own setups and not to try to make a blanket statement on the need of this solution for performance seekers in the Fiesta ST platform.

 

[Alkoran]

I read that comment as well and thought it could not be from the inlet but after switching back to stock I've had a night and day difference in the way it pulls. Before it felt like it was running out of breath from the middle to the top end.

Are you stock turbo?

ron@whoosh Any idea?