Pumaspeed X280 - S280 upgrade

[daloonie]

Sooooo I found this today:
https://pumaspeed.co.uk/product-Pumaspeed-S280-to-X280-Conversion-400-bhp_21194.jsp

Pumaspeed S280 to X280 Conversion 400+ bhp - Pumaspeed Hybrid Turbochargers

• Your own Turbo Fully Reworked and Refreshed
• New Motorsport internals
• Larger S280 compatible Shaft and Exhaust Wheel
• New Larger Diameter 7 Blade Compressor Wheel
• Fully CNC Machined Compressor Cover to take new 7 blade wheel
• Fully CNC Machined Exhuast Turbine Housing to take new Larger shaft and 12 blade wheel
• PROVEN 412BHP CAPABLE BY MAXDOUT ON DANNY'S GREY RACE CAR

FINALLY THE UPGRADE FOR ALL EXISTING S280 TURBO USERS YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR
What do you get when you take the Turbo Technics S280 turbocharger and work the Pumaspeed magic and give it a 40-50bhp increase in Flow. ?
We call it the X280 !! Thats some elements of the S280 and the very best of 430bhp capable X58Evo2.

 

[MO15Fiesta]

The s280 will completely max out the stock engine. This is silly. Plus there is a turbo coming out soon that will make that upgrade irrelevant... yawn.

 

[Jabbit]

412bhp would still be roughly 360-370whp, which people are already doing with ease. I agree, I don't see the point.

 

[ron@whoosh]

"hey guys, we're having a heck of a time selling these X37, 47, 48, 48x, 58, 58x, 58 evo turbos so we may as well use the most popular and successful turbos available for the Fiesta as a springboard for some sales"

 

[LilPartyBox]

"hey guys, we're having a heck of a time selling these X37, 47, 48, 48x, 58, 58x, 58 evo turbos so we may as well use the most popular and successful turbos available for the Fiesta as a springboard for some sales"

Ok ok ok...on this one i have to agree lmao Take a successful turbo, thin out the housings & throw in larger wheels that magically don't need more inertia aka rpms...and promote an HP level we all know greatly increase the boom factor on oem internals. no thx.

 

[slopoke]

With the track record of the Pumaspeed turbos, I'd stay away.

 

[Woods247]

The s280 will completely max out the stock engine. This is silly. Plus there is a turbo coming out soon that will make that upgrade irrelevant... yawn.

What’s the new turbo you’re taking about? What’s the advantage? I’m building a block to make 400-450whp with stock spool characteristics and need a new turbo, preferably American so I don’t have to deal with overseas support if it breaks. Is the turbo you’re talking about made in the US? Are you testing the new turbo?

 

[slopoke]

What’s the new turbo you’re taking about? What’s the advantage? I’m building a block to make 400-450whp with stock spool characteristics and need a new turbo, preferably American so I don’t have to deal with overseas support if it breaks. Is the turbo you’re talking about made in the US? Are you testing the new turbo?

Looks as though Pumaspeed is taking the S280 and adding a bigger turbine wheel and compressor wheel. We all know how this is going to end up. LOL.

 

[Woods247]

With the track record of the Pumaspeed turbos, I'd stay away.

Did yours fail too? I had an x47 immediately fail due to a defect but the replacement x47 has seen over 30k miles on race tracks at 26psi with zero issues. I change my oil and know how to install parts correctly though.. Real talk, I didn’t expect it to last this long.. I believed the internet when it came to hybrid reliability issues. I just got lucky I guess. That or people without first hand experience just perpetuate misinformation.

Edit: I’m not a cheerleader for any vendors. I don’t have any sponsors. I get the same discounts everyone else gets. I don’t care for opinions or speculation. If parts I’ve used survive or fail from the abuse my car sees, I make it known politely so others can make informed decisions. I do get tired of weak jabs at Pumaspeed though because I have dealt with them a few times including a turbo warranty and had zero issues. They’ve also pioneered a lot of beneficial upgrades for these cars and continue to support the platform with new products like this, even if it seems arbitrary. The Fiesta market is really small and everyone involved is valuable.

 

[dhminer]

Did yours fail too? I had an x47 immediately fail due to a defect but the replacement x47 has seen over 30k miles on race tracks at 26psi with zero issues. I change my oil and know how to install parts correctly though.. Real talk, I didn’t expect it to last this long.. I believed the internet when it came to hybrid reliability issues. I just got lucky I guess. That or people without first hand experience just perpetuate misinformation.

The latter, mostly

 

[slopoke]

Did yours fail too? I had an x47 immediately fail due to a defect but the replacement x47 has seen over 30k miles on race tracks at 26psi with zero issues. I change my oil and know how to install parts correctly though.. Real talk, I didn’t expect it to last this long.. I believed the internet when it came to hybrid reliability issues. I just got lucky I guess. That or people without first hand experience just perpetuate misinformation.

Fortunately, I did not buy their turbos. Seeing all of the failures on this board kept me with known good brands like, Garrett and Revo S242 (Rebranded Turbo Technics Turbo).

Like I stated before, I've read more failures of Pumaspeed units, compared to the Turbo Technics S242 and S280 turbos.

 

[Woods247]

Fortunately, I did not buy their turbos. Seeing all of the failures on this board kept me with known good brands like, Garrett and Revo S242 (Rebranded Turbo Technics Turbo).

I get it. Whoosh didn’t have a hybrid when I bought the X47 otherwise I probably would’ve chosen his simply because he’s based in the US. The S280 didn’t exist and “Revogate” was in full effect at that time. Pumaspeed actually builds pretty solid stuff in my experience. I was super pissed when my first turbo broke because I assumed I was fuct (because internet said so). Tim Pwnall and the guys at Pumaspeed made replacing it under warranty super easy. International shipping time is all that sucked because it takes a long time and there’s additional cost involved.

 

[MO15Fiesta]

What’s the new turbo you’re taking about? What’s the advantage? I’m building a block to make 400-450whp with stock spool characteristics and need a new turbo, preferably American so I don’t have to deal with overseas support if it breaks. Is the turbo you’re talking about made in the US? Are you testing the new turbo?

Unfortunately I'm not at liberty to say anything yet, as I just simply don't know much about it, but hopefully that changes in the next few weeks. It will be through Whoosh Motorsports, so it will have the US support and backing we all know and love. Yes, I will be testing it The s280 sets an awfully high standard, with a stock engine I'm not sure it can be beat!

 

[gtx3076]

Unfortunately I'm not at liberty to say anything yet, as I just simply don't know much about it, but hopefully that changes in the next few weeks. It will be through Whoosh Motorsports, so it will have the US support and backing we all know and love. Yes, I will be testing it The s280 sets an awfully high standard, with a stock engine I'm not sure it can be beat!

What the hell. You unofficially suggesting whoosh is putting out a direct competitor to the S280?

 

[Jabbit]

What the hell. You unofficially suggesting whoosh is putting out a direct competitor to the S280?

And a manifold too if rumor is true.

 

[ron@whoosh]

What the hell. You unofficially suggesting whoosh is putting out a direct competitor to the S280?

no, not at all

 

[MO15Fiesta]

What the hell. You unofficially suggesting whoosh is putting out a direct competitor to the S280?

Not in the least bit! Just hang on for a little bit and you will see

 

[Bull Run]

I believed the internet when it came to hybrid reliability issues. I just got lucky I guess. That or people without first hand experience just perpetuate misinformation.

I see this happening in all car forums in general. Probably because one person reports a problem, ten others without first hand experiences chime in for future discussions, and thus creates a perception of a bigger problem. I usually ask for a percentage of failures in cases like these and no one usually have that data.

 

[Woods247]

Unfortunately I'm not at liberty to say anything yet, as I just simply don't know much about it, but hopefully that changes in the next few weeks. It will be through Whoosh Motorsports, so it will have the US support and backing we all know and love. Yes, I will be testing it The s280 sets an awfully high standard, with a stock engine I'm not sure it can be beat!

Are you road course testing it or 1/4 mile?

 

[MO15Fiesta]

Are you road course testing it or 1/4 mile?

1/4 mile.