So does the AP3 itself come with Cobb's stage 1 tune? Is that part of the OTS tunes it comes with?
Here's ModBargain's thread on the "Cobb V3 Accessport":
http://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/...ash-Tuner-Available-Now!-5-more-HP-15-more-TQ!
That is being sold for $427 (and possibly less with the "special pricing" you can seem to always get by just PMing them before placing the order). I don't personally see how the Cobb Stage 1 tune is any different than MAP's tune. To me, a custom tune is a tune done specifically for your individual car, whether from sending logs or being on a dyno. MAP's tune is what looks to be based on dynoes from 1 stock FiST and being sent to everyone else with the purchase of the Accessport for $500. They both seem to be the same to me in that regard.
Now, MAP's tune, based on the dyno on that one car they show, is better. And contrary to what I said earlier, it's not just a peak 20 lb/ft of torque gain either. There's gains in the entire lower half of the power band versus Cobb's stage 1.
This particular discussion is probably moot anyway, as I'm not sure how many people, if any, would pay $75-$100 less for the Cobb Accessport with Stage 1 tune versus MAPs tune with Accessport, with a possible peak gain and better powerband. I say possible because just because this one particular FiST that MAP did the comparison on the tunes had a bigger gain with the MAP tune versus Cobb's tune, doesn't necessarily mean all stock FiSTs with experience the same thing...right?