Timing Belt

[augie07]

Coming up on 100k hard driven miles....aside from the local ford dealer where would be a good place to source a replacement kit? Not seeing anything on whoosh, mountune, etc

thanks


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[TyphoonFiST]

Coming up on 100k hard driven miles....aside from the local ford dealer where would be a good place to source a replacement kit? Not seeing anything on whoosh, mountune, etc

thanks


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I'd use Ford only....no aftermarket stuff in this application if I was you. This is one thing I'll go to the OEM for ....too much garbage out there aftermarket now.

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[Intuit]

^120% true. Too critical to chance experimentation. We know the OEM belts are solid and rated for 150k maintenance interval.

 

[Ford ST]

At the rate I drive the car I won't have to replace it for 15 years.

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[augie07]

I wasnt considering anything but genuine motorcraft parts.....just was curious why companies like mountune dont offer a fully assembled kit to put it all in one place/make online purchase easier. looks like I'll just sp'o from the local ford dealer though


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[jmrtsus]

I doubt any third party can have these made cheaper than the volume Ford buys them. There is no money in replacement parts unless you can improve on stock. Mountune is into upgrades.......not 150K replacement items. Stick with them OEM part.

 

[Intuit]

At the rate I drive the car I won't have to replace it for 15 years.

You have a point. Time is a factor for belts. I'll have to look that up...

 

[Capri to ST]

You have a point. Time is a factor for belts. I'll have to look that up...

I had that thought also. I'm only putting about 5,000 miles a year on the car, so I thought it would be way too long if I waited to do the timing belt until I hit 150,000 miles. I haven't seen anything in the manual about replacing it in a certain time, but to be on the safe side I'll probably do it after about eight or nine years. I just don't like the idea of driving around on a 10 year old timing belt.
If you break one, and if the engine is an interference engine (which I believe ours is) you're in a world of hurt.

 

[Intuit]

That's interesting that the owner's manual wouldn't specify a time interval. Perhaps there's one in the service manual?

They usually base that on averages. The average US cit is said to average 10-12k per year. So if you divide 150 by 12, that comes out to 12.5 years.

 

[Capri to ST]

That's interesting that the owner's manual wouldn't specify a time interval. Perhaps there's one in the service manual?

That would be interesting to know. Would someone with a service manual check that?

I did see a service schedule in the Ford ETIS system. That recommends changing the timing belt every 125,000 miles or 10 years-
Camshaft drive belt-Every 125,000 miles/10 years-Renew (LTS 21 304 9)
http://www.etis.ford.com/fordservice/serviceScheduleView.do

 

[Old_pablo]

I don’t think the 1.6 L double overhead camshaft engine is interference. Anybody know? The Single overhead cam shaft 1.6 L is interference. The ST is DOHC. Skip tooth or break the belt the engine shldn’t be damaged.


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[MRX330]

I’ve been using Lakeland Ford (Florida) online parts for awhile now. Zero problems and great customer service. Have your VIN handy and call them if you aren’t sure about fitment.

 

[Intuit]

I don’t think the 1.6 L double overhead camshaft engine is interference. Anybody know? The Single overhead cam shaft 1.6 L is interference. The ST is DOHC. Skip tooth or break the belt the engine shldn’t be damaged.

There are many 1.6L engines and there were many Fiesta cars. Sharing the same displacement and name, many aspects of their designs get confused. If you run a search, there are websites (top search results) that tell you that Escorts are interference... and some of the ones made overseas were.

 

[felopr]

if you look at the manual, it doesnt look dificult if you have the special tools needed for the change. i would probably take the motor out just to have space imo

 

[maestromaestro]

I don’t think the 1.6 L double overhead camshaft engine is interference. Anybody know? The Single overhead cam shaft 1.6 L is interference. The ST is DOHC. Skip tooth or break the belt the engine shldn’t be damaged.


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That was my question.

 

[Intuit]

I don’t think the 1.6 L double overhead camshaft engine is interference. Anybody know? The Single overhead cam shaft 1.6 L is interference. The ST is DOHC. Skip tooth or break the belt the engine shldn’t be damaged.

The 1.6L Zetec in the SE is completely different from the 1.6L Ecoboost in the ST.
Here's additional proof...
https://www.fiestastforum.com/threa...ing-needs-engine-an-rebuild-intro-post.19509/
(nutshell: changed parts and programming in attempt to alter performance characteristics, belt lost timing, byebye valves, pistons, rods.)
https://www.fiestastforum.com/threads/is-our-engine-an-interference-engine.19479/
(nutshell: another thread over the same confusion)

 

[maestromaestro]

Duly noted. Once and for all: I-N-T-E-R-F-E-R-E-N-C-E.

 

[CSM]

Anyone know what the time interval is for our timing belts? at 5 years now

 

[Capri to ST]

Anyone know what the time interval is for our timing belts? at 5 years now

The manual just specifies a 150,000 mile service interval for it, and doesn't mention time. I found a European service schedule for the ST online in the Ford ETIS system that said every 125,000 miles or 10 years. I'm only putting about 4,000 miles a year on the car, so I'll probably do it every eight or 10 years just to be on the safe side.

 

[Intuit]

North Americans are said to average 10-12k per year which would put the time interval around 12.5 years. Time and environment are very important factors for belts. Not sure why our owner/service manuals overlooked specifying that. Even if the belts have a high silicon content, the hotter running engines (for emissions purposes) will serve to offset some of those gains.

I'd rather trust the EU's spec, which doesn't overlook the obviously important and go with the 125k/10y interval.

I believe we have had some members who were changing out on that 150k without issue though.