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Firestone Firehawk Indy 500

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Seems like you overreacted a bit.

You don't have access to a computer that u can save the picture to then then upload for free?

Anyways, got any closer pics to show the fitment of the RSRRs?
Any "overreaction" is because I am totally sick and tired of his internet warrior BS already.
I don't follow him around this site, just looking for/waiting for a chance to pounce on anything he posts, I usually pretty much avoid him at all costs.
In fact, I used to actually give kudos and likes to his posts, once upon a time.

He goes on to the ignore list now, problem solved.

Sorry, no other pics, and nothing to get a pic to the computer with, but I cannot be the ONLY one with these tires on a 17x8 on this whole site.

I can tell you that the flat lip edge (the part that says "Team Dynamics Motorsports" cast into it) of the 17x8 1.2s does stick out a slight bit from the bead of the RS-RRs though, since there is some alloy to alloy contact when they are stacked on top of each other.
They are NOT the widest tread width 215/40-17 tires out there, if that is what you are looking for (The Yoko AD08Rs, and older model Dunlop Star Spec 2s win that contest).
 


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Any "overreaction" is because I am totally sick and tired of his internet warrior BS already.
I don't follow him around this site, just looking for/waiting for a chance to pounce on anything he posts, I usually pretty much avoid him at all costs.
In fact, I used to actually give kudos and likes to his posts, once upon a time.

He goes on to the ignore list now, problem solved.

Sorry, no other pics, and nothing to get a pic to the computer with, but I cannot be the ONLY one with these tires on a 17x8 on this whole site.

I can tell you that the flat lip edge (the part that says "Team Dynamics Motorsports" cast into it) of the 17x8 1.2s does stick out a slight bit from the bead of the RS-RRs though, since there is some alloy to alloy contact when they are stacked on top of each other.
They are NOT the widest tread width 215/40-17 tires out there, if that is what you are looking for (The Yoko AD08Rs, and older model Dunlop Star Spec 2s win that contest).
Interesting. I was told Federals run wider then what they're advertised which is why I'm asking. My 205 Michelin P/S AS3s don't let the lip protrude from the bead. Have you been hard on the RSRRs at all? If so, hows the heat management?
 


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Interesting. I was told Federals run wider then what they're advertised which is why I'm asking. My 205 Michelin P/S AS3s don't let the lip protrude from the bead. Have you been hard on the RSRRs at all? If so, hows the heat management?
Not hard enough to tell whether or not they get 'greasy', as some have claimed they do near the end of their 20 minute open track sessions.

I bought them because they were an inexpensive, but still very sticky tire (did not want the s.Drive, Nero GT, or the Kumho PS31 options) which I could never over-drive/reach their limits on the street (at least not without losing one's license), and wider tread width, and a little more sidewall than most of the 205/40-17s out there.
The 215/40-17 RS-RRs are actually a tenth of an inch narrower than the 205/40-17 Pilot Sport AS/3s in tread width, but a tenth of an inch wider in section width.
 


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Interesting. I was told Federals run wider then what they're advertised which is why I'm asking. My 205 Michelin P/S AS3s don't let the lip protrude from the bead. Have you been hard on the RSRRs at all? If so, hows the heat management?
Federals tend to run wider, but not always. It depends on the model and even sometimes the size. There is a sizing chart on their website.

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I'm pretty close to getting these Firehawks, and just thought I'd see if anyone else had any experience with them. I have been told that they should have the same quick steering response as the OEM Potenzas, which is important to me. This car is my daily driver, and I drive aggressively on the street at times, but have not tracked the car. I also understand they can be a bit vague at the limit, which should not be a problem, because I usually don't reach that point.
They are quite a bit cheaper than the Bridgestones, and I'm hoping that they might last significantly longer. I only got about nine thousand miles out of the OEM Potenzas.
 


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WRONG!

I have been saying that I cannot post pics, for years.

No effing smart phone, and I am NOT going to go buy one just to satisfy you, or anyone else on here, or 'prove' anything to anyone on here, since I do not need one in order to survive, as so many others do. [wink]

People on here (JDG and others, at a local FiST meetup) DID see my car with these wheels and tires on it, and can attest to the FACT that they exist.

Here's a pic from that meet, posted up in the Mid-Atlantic forum right on this here site to shut you the eff up.

Right in the middle, with the telltale lower IC grille.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4277/35651751862_4488c44438_k.jpg
omg driving a stick in flip flops you all are nuts hah - every time I've tried to drive in my flippy floppies they refuse to cooperate :p
 


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I'm pretty close to getting these Firehawks, and just thought I'd see if anyone else had any experience with them. I have been told that they should have the same quick steering response as the OEM Potenzas, which is important to me. This car is my daily driver, and I drive aggressively on the street at times, but have not tracked the car. I also understand they can be a bit vague at the limit, which should not be a problem, because I usually don't reach that point.
They are quite a bit cheaper than the Bridgestones, and I'm hoping that they might last significantly longer. I only got about nine thousand miles out of the OEM Potenzas.
I just had a set installed on wednesday, but its been raining and gross out since. I will say that even with brand new tires in the rain they were tracking better than my fairly worn potenzas. My stock tires lasted 11k or so until the inside edge was getting a little low. They probably had 5k or so left after another rotation but they were getting squirrely in the years first rain. I wound up getting booted from jury duty wednesday so I went across the street and had the firehawks installed :p


I did find out that my wheels didn't get destroyed by my assistant going through a car wash, it was the place that I had do my tire rotation. They laid the wheels flat on the ground and pushed them across the ground. When the guys had my wheels off I looked and all the scraping was in the same direction. Assistant was not lying :highfive:
 


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omg driving a stick in flip flops you all are nuts hah - every time I've tried to drive in my flippy floppies they refuse to cooperate :p
I drive mine in flip flops nearly every weekend, especially during the summer. But it probably depends on what flips you are wearing. IMO they need to be at least capable of strolling comfortably in outside.

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Ya it depends on the type. I daily mine in flip flops almost year round. Some like to fold and get stuck under the pedal. No bueno!

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Ya it depends on the type. I daily mine in flip flops almost year round. Some like to fold and get stuck under the pedal. No bueno!

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Same here. Never had a problem in the fist. 04 suburban grabbed it once and folded it but only once.

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I have ordered these Firehawks, will report back after I've had them on for a bit.
Any updates now that its been 6 months??

my 2018 FiST just hit 19,200 miles and I'm getting the Indy 500's put on tomorrow from Evans Tires here in San Diego.. .They come to $358 OTD including install, road hazard for life of tires etc including the current $60 rebate... I couldn't justify spending more when I drive 80% HIGHWAY and 20% canyon runs!
 


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I Have them...great bang for the Buck! The turn in isn't as sharp as the Bridgestone's that I took off. But I think the grip is better when aggressive driving. Only time will tell now...I expect to get maybe 3 seasons out of them driving summer only.
 


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Any updates now that its been 6 months??

my 2018 FiST just hit 19,200 miles and I'm getting the Indy 500's put on tomorrow from Evans Tires here in San Diego.. .They come to $358 OTD including install, road hazard for life of tires etc including the current $60 rebate... I couldn't justify spending more when I drive 80% HIGHWAY and 20% canyon runs!
I've been meaning to do this, thanks for the reminder. You got a great deal.

1- Turn in, handling precision- there is a small, but noticeable loss of the quick precise feel on turn in, and in the precise feel of the steering in general. It's still good, but not as good as the stock Potenzas. My driving includes some cruising around town and some aggressive driving on back roads, and this aspect of the car is really important to me.
Mine are fully broken in now, with about 1,500 miles on them, but I'm hoping some of this is attributable to the taller tread blocks which can squirm a bit, as opposed to my Potenzas which were basically slicks. More time will tell.

2- Ride- the Firestones are much better here, being more forgiving over bumps which the Potenzas would hit pretty hard over. It's a performance car so this is obviously not the main goal, but it's still nice to be hitting less hard here.

3- Grip in rain- I've only driven them in the rain a couple times, but they seem solid and confidence-inspiring here.

4- Longevity- obviously I don't know yet, but I only got 8800 miles out of the Potenzas. I'd be surprised if I don't get considerably more out of the Firestones.

5- Accelerative traction- they handle the power that my moderately (Mountune MP215) tuned car produces with no problem.

Summary- the Firestones are a really good tire, and a great deal for the money. I'm glad I got them so that I could try them out. I got them for $97 each, the Potenzas were about $250 each at that time. Last time I looked they were down closer to $175. Given how quickly they wear out and how hard they ride, it's hard to justify the extra price. However, I will seriously consider buying them anyway when the Firestones wear out just to get that last bit of steering precision and quick turn in, which to me is one of the best things about the car. I can see why Ford Performance chose the Potenzas for this car, and I'm glad to have another good choice in the stock size in the Firestones.

By the way,I called Ford Performance to see if they had any other tires they recommended besides the Potenzas, and they recommended the Firestones as an alternative. One of the guys there had them and liked them a lot.
 


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