My official Race Chip thread 2.0 -

[TalkToTheFiST]

Ah - its been 3-4 years, but back then I got dumped on for shooting micro 4/3 even though I had a full frame canon lol. The camera that's with you is way better than the one that isn't

Here's a few shots for people wondering what the setup looks like (taken with MFT actually Clint !!!). First two are the actual chip box, im trying it out next to the battery where there's little heat and a cozy spot to tuck it into.
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Next below is the cam sensor, to the right in the BG you can see the original plug hooked into the the female of the chip line.
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Lastly is the little bastard for the boost, couldn't get my arm past the intake so i had to come up from underneath.
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I was gonna show the other two plugs but i was being attacked by blood suckers. Now the next order of business is to get some times to gauge acceleration. If you look at the chip box, there's a little white dial with 0-5. 0 is for off for stock operation, 1 is the lowest boost setting, 5 is highest.

The plan is to find a stretch of road, probly highway, and test on the same spot to remove possibility of hills and traction skewing results. Few runs set at 0 and at 5 timed should give me a good feel for the HP difference. It's no dyno but then if you are after "performance" real world testing is actually more important as it also factors in hp/tq curve improvements, rather than just boasting a top number.

Any questions or requests just fire away, i'll be staying active in the thread whiling im figuring out my test runs.

 

[MagnetiseST]

I mean this is essentially a JB4 for our cars, minus the ability to read out info.

If I were you: get some electrical tape for the lower charge pipe connectors and wrap the connections so water doesn't sit in there.

I'm glad it wasn't just a plug in engine bomb. Neat to see that something else exists, its just a shame its so expensive. If it were less expensive I think there would be more market for it.

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

There you have it folks. Irrefutable proof. Very much like their YT video.

I already said long ago i won't be getting it dynod (at least not up front), my initial evidence will be a butt test and some acceleration times. If that's not good enough for you i understand but if not, what are you adding to the thread by just being sarcastic?

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

I mean this is essentially a JB4 for our cars, minus the ability to read out info.

If I were you: get some electrical tape for the lower charge pipe connectors and wrap the connections so water doesn't sit in there.

I'm glad it wasn't just a plug in engine bomb. Neat to see that something else exists, its just a shame its so expensive. If it were less expensive I think there would be more market for it.

I will heed your advice there ty. You are talking about the boost sensor plugs, being down so low they can get wet? I was also thinking of getting a ziplock bag to rubber band around the chip box itself, just to make sure.

 

[danbfree]

Here's a few shots for people wondering what the setup looks like (taken with MFT actually Clint !!!). First two are the actual chip box, im trying it out next to the battery where there's little heat and a cozy spot to tuck it into.
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Next below is the cam sensor, to the right in the BG you can see the original plug hooked into the the female of the chip line.
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Lastly is the little bastard for the boost, couldn't get my arm past the intake so i had to come up from underneath.
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I was gonna show the other two plugs but i was being attacked by blood suckers. Now the next order of business is to get some times to gauge acceleration. If you look at the chip box, there's a little white dial with 0-5. 0 is for off for stock operation, 1 is the lowest boost setting, 5 is highest.

The plan is to find a stretch of road, probly highway, and test on the same spot to remove possibility of hills and traction skewing results. Few runs set at 0 and at 5 timed should give me a good feel for the HP difference. It's no dyno but then if you are after "performance" real world testing is actually more important as it also factors in hp/tq curve improvements, rather than just boasting a top number.

Any questions or requests just fire away, i'll be staying active in the thread whiling im figuring out my test runs.

I'd at least get a $10 Bluetooth dongle and a decent paid phone app to monitor things... There are a BOAT ton to choose from, I can only say that Torrque Pro will give you 0-60 and estimated HP/torque that may or may not be all that accurate but will also give you boost readings too. Since I already bought it a long time ago it's not showing me the price but I think it's only $5.

 

[MagnetiseST]

I will heed your advice there ty. You are talking about the boost sensor plugs, being down so low they can get wet? I was also thinking of getting a ziplock bag to rubber band around the chip box itself, just to make sure.

Yeah just make sure that water wont collect in them. They don't look like OE plugs, so they may not be exactly water tight.

Also I would mount your unit on top of the fuse box cover with some velcro, so its easily removable. If you let it dangle there you run the risk of it vibrating against the battery box. Little electronics don't like vibrations.

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

Yeah just make sure that water wont collect in them. They don't look like OE plugs, so they may not be exactly water tight.

Also I would mount your unit on top of the fuse box cover with some velcro, so its easily removable. If you let it dangle there you run the risk of it vibrating against the battery box. Little electronics don't like vibrations.

Gotcha ty. I gotta say too its not scientific but the butt test was crazy, definitely more power. Not just tq force, I can definitely tell I get up to speed a good bit faster.

it will be it will be interesting to see what the numbers say when I get some speed tests done.

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

I'd at least get a $10 Bluetooth dongle and a decent paid phone app to monitor things... There are a BOAT ton to choose from, I can only say that Torrque Pro will give you 0-60 and estimated HP/torque that may or may not be all that accurate but will also give you boost readings too. Since I already bought it a long time ago it's not showing me the price but I think it's only $5.

Thats cool we can get those. Anywhere in particular that sells the dongle? I'd be very interested to see how much boost it's actually producing.

 

[Clint Beastwood]

Thats cool we can get those. Anywhere in particular that sells the dongle? I'd be very interested to see how much boost it's actually producing.

That’s probably going to be a problem, since the boost pressure sensor data is being manipulated to trick it into making more boost. Might need a mechanical boost gauge to get a real reading.

For the dongle you need an elm327 or equivalent. You need WiFi with an iPhone or WiFi/Bluetooth for android.

 

[HBEcoBeaST]

That’s probably going to be a problem, since the boost pressure sensor data is being manipulated to trick it into making more boost. Might need a mechanical boost gauge to get a real reading.

For the dongle you need an elm327 or equivalent. You need WiFi with an iPhone or WiFi/Bluetooth for android.

Yes it might be a PITA to get actual boost pressure. This is how the dealership noticed my buddy had the delta boost module since the ECM recorded it as not producing target boost or AFR even though the motor was in fact running fine at the time and producing MORE boost. I'd imagine the tq estimates would also be off and read lower than actual.

Glad the OP got a positive result and I agree with the others as to water proofing the connections and securing the module somewhere it won't bounce around.

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

Yes it might be a PITA to get actual boost pressure. This is how the dealership noticed my buddy had the delta boost module since the ECM recorded it as not producing target boost or AFR even though the motor was in fact running fine at the time and producing MORE boost. I'd imagine the tq estimates would also be off and read lower than actual.

Glad the OP got a positive result and I agree with the others as to water proofing the connections and securing the module somewhere it won't bounce around.

Yea i had thought about that after the fact, it won't tell me what's really going on for boost. FWIW i have another butt tester who confirmed more power. My 15yo knew i was getting a chip but didn't know when, i drove him to stay at a friends and a couple times gassing it in 2nd and he asked if i got my chip bc it was a lot faster.

Today was me n wife's anniversary so it's been a bit difficult to just leave and go time some highway pulls but im working on it 👰🏽 🤵🏽

 

[Clint Beastwood]

Yes it might be a PITA to get actual boost pressure. This is how the dealership noticed my buddy had the delta boost module since the ECM recorded it as not producing target boost or AFR even though the motor was in fact running fine at the time and producing MORE boost. I'd imagine the tq estimates would also be off and read lower than actual.

Glad the OP got a positive result and I agree with the others as to water proofing the connections and securing the module somewhere it won't bounce around.

It'll probably log the "making too much torque" message as well.

 

[FistToFast]

Glad the butt test pulled through. Big turbo time yet?

 

[HBEcoBeaST]

It'll probably log the "making too much torque" message as well.

It actually logs lower than target torque to get the motor to make more power. I don't think the logs would be horribly off stock, but they were off enough the dealer (who was familiar with the Delta boost module) noticed. All piggyback units would have to work the same way in principle or else the motor would pull power.

 

[Clint Beastwood]

It actually logs lower than target torque to get the motor to make more power. I don't think the logs would be horribly off stock, but they were off enough the dealer (who was familiar with the Delta boost module) noticed. All piggyback units would have to work the same way in principle or else the motor would pull power.

Ah. I know whenever I'm running a tune it logs the torque value exceeded code or something like that.

 

[HBEcoBeaST]

Ah. I know whenever I'm running a tune it logs the torque value exceeded code or something like that.

Hmm I'm no expert on how the ECM logs things under these circumstances. Interesting

 

[Clint Beastwood]

Hmm I'm no expert on how the ECM logs things under these circumstances. Interesting

That code doesn't bother me too much. It's like someone complaining your junk is too huge.

 

[TalkToTheFiST]

Glad the butt test pulled through. Big turbo time yet?

Dude if i could i so would. I'd take my car in tomorrow for a bigger FMIC, and i guess a downpipe as i hear people mention those help with bigger turbos? But my wife is responsible and forces me to budget ..... But i gotta say, i don't know how people keep the rubber on the road, this evening i was driving some common fun roads and my god, even through 2nd the tires were constantly slipping.

Now i don't claim to have sticky racing tires but there are people out there pushing 400hp and beyond in FISTs, i can't imagine they can even put their foot down and keep grip unless they are in like 4th. I've watched the girl with the orange FIST, i think her name's Kaitlyn? The 380hp one, it just roasts through into 3rd.

Tonight i was in a very isolated road and had to hit the brakes from about 60, my god this car can stop on a dime. About 15 dear were crossing the road and were lucky i wasn't some soccer mom in a suburban. First time i have engaged the anti lock function, this car is awesome.

 

[Clint Beastwood]

Dude if i could i so would. I'd take my car in tomorrow for a bigger FMIC, and i guess a downpipe as i hear people mention those help with bigger turbos? But my wife is responsible and forces me to budget ..... But i gotta say, i don't know how people keep the rubber on the road, this evening i was driving some common fun roads and my god, even through 2nd the tires were constantly slipping.

Now i don't claim to have sticky racing tires but there are people out there pushing 400hp and beyond in FISTs, i can't imagine they can even put their foot down and keep grip unless they are in like 4th. I've watched the girl with the orange FIST, i think her name's Kaitlyn? The 380hp one, it just roasts through into 3rd.

Tonight i was in a very isolated road and had to hit the brakes from about 60, my god this car can stop on a dime. About 15 dear were crossing the road and were lucky i wasn't some soccer mom in a suburban. First time i have engaged the anti lock function, this car is awesome.

I think that’s part of the reason a lot of people prefer a dizzy tune vs a stratified one, the power is a little more tractable. My stratified tune was fun but it was a tire destroyer. The dizzy one makes just as much power but in a more adult way. I still flip tunes on occasion but each time I go back to dizzy for daily duties. I’m wondering how much of your butt test (there has to be a better way of saying that) is more aggressive throttle mapping vs actual power. Remapping the throttle makes it feel like there’s a ton more power.

 

[Hypergram]

I think that’s part of the reason a lot of people prefer a dizzy tune vs a stratified one, the power is a little more tractable. My stratified tune was fun but it was a tire destroyer. The dizzy one makes just as much power but in a more adult way. I still flip tunes on occasion but each time I go back to dizzy for daily duties. I’m wondering how much of your butt test (there has to be a better way of saying that) is more aggressive throttle mapping vs actual power. Remapping the throttle makes it feel like there’s a ton more power.

I've always been a bit confused about the Dizzytune. Do I just purchase the Stage 2 Tune and then he'll email me asking about my mods? Or is it just an OTS tune. If I wanted to get a 93 Octane, and E30 tune, would I have to get Dizzypop for both? I've never had an Accessport (and still don't) so trying to piece the whole system together is a little difficult.